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    Microsoft is gonna get a kick in the A** for this! I can see another antitrust trial comin' already! This is insane! I'm gonna complain to the Justice Department!

    HAVE A DAY.
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    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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    • #3
      Don't worry, any software copy protections can always be cracked. Microsoft will waste money devising this system, and some 18 year old hacker will defeat it.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        I think we all know what happened to Wiglaf, now.

        But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the reason that no other software will open Office 2003 documents with the restricted documents (with the License Server in corporations) is because nobody else makes a product that can do **** like that.

        God damn them and doing new things, they should wait till someone else does it and then watch. If they tried to enter that market, they'd be just admitting they're satan...
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sava
          Don't worry, any software copy protections can always be cracked. Microsoft will waste money devising this system, and some 18 year old hacker will defeat it.
          This is early stuff that'll be hardware-based with Palladium. And once it's hardware based like Palladium, it becomes a real ***** to get around it.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #6
            For anyone who works with Office documents containing sensitive information the outrage is not that there will be an easy way to lock it and stop other people altering your documents, the outrage is that it isn't already available as part of Office.
            Never give an AI an even break.

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            • #7
              I agree with Cerberus. It's taken too long for something like this to appear.
              If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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              • #8
                This already happens with acrobat files to some extent. It's just password protection. Worry about Palladium. Hardware based copy protection is the real satan.

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                • #9
                  It's not password protection, even in this software case, if you'd care to look into it.

                  It involves useraccounts, licenses, keys, and encryption.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CerberusIV
                    For anyone who works with Office documents containing sensitive information the outrage is not that there will be an easy way to lock it and stop other people altering your documents, the outrage is that it isn't already available as part of Office.
                    FYI, PGP/GPG has been out for aeons, and they work on any files - not just Office documents.
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                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the reason that no other software will open Office 2003 documents with the restricted documents (with the License Server in corporations) is because nobody else makes a product that can do **** like that.
                      As it was pointed out in the article, nobody is going to buy yet another version of Office just for that. There are already tons of programs that encrypt files, and some of them are even free
                      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                      • #12
                        PGP allows you to set expiry dates? PGP allows you easily to assign documents to be only readable, only writable, assign only-certain-parts to be writable, etc? PGP allows you to click entire Workgroups at once to add permission to, rather than adding everyone's key automatically? Not to mention the logistics of key distribution and encrypting/decrypting is a pain in the ass.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                          FYI, PGP/GPG has been out for aeons, and they work on any files - not just Office documents.
                          I know, but like 98% (my guesstimate!) of computer users I don't want to start going off and downloading other software, etc. I just want the whole thing in one package that I can use there and then. I want it easy so that I can do a piece of work and then go and do something else.
                          Never give an AI an even break.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                            As it was pointed out in the article, nobody is going to buy yet another version of Office just for that. There are already tons of programs that encrypt files, and some of them are even free
                            Two things:
                            First, you obviously don't understand what the technology is -- it's not simply fileencryption.

                            Second, did you even read the article?
                            Rosoff said IRM should see fairly quick adoption--at least compared with complex XML-based functions to be tied into Office 2003--because it solves an immediate business problem and is relatively cheap and easy to implement.

                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              Since any attempt by Microsoft to improve/better it's products will automatically be seen as another attempt to monopolize/dominate/destroy, are these threads necessary?

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