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Besides, we don't exactly export our best, when it comes to price / quality ratio. We have tons of good and affordable wines that are barely risky to drink (I'm talking about reds... French whites are hardly risky, especially Alsaces), but you have to look at the right places with the right vendors to get them...Originally posted by Sikander
I tend to like California wines over French wines for exactly the reasons that Spiffor outlines. Lower risk and a higher chance of reward. Perhaps the rewards don't reach the heights of the best French wines, but I don't care enough about that to invest the time and effort.
If you ever go to Paris when I'm there, we'll get a "cuite" together and you'll know
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You can buy a bottle of Rioja (Marques de Caceres) at Trader Joe's for less than $6.-30-Comment
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Sicko.Originally posted by reds4ever
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Bear in mind that room temperature should be 18-24°C, not 30°C+Originally posted by Drogue
As for chilling, with red wine it's a big no
Red wine should be served at room temperature
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What do you mean? France certainly export their best wines, at very high prices, of course.Originally posted by Spiffor
Besides, we don't exactly export our best, when it comes to price / quality ratio.
The best French wines are, well, best. The random assorted stuff (such as Vin de Pays) is crappy, though.Originally posted by Spiffor
We have tons of good and affordable wines that are barely risky to drink(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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They sure areOriginally posted by Urban Ranger
The best French wines are, well, best.
But when abroad, you have to pay a disproportionate price to get it, unless you have a few good contacts. Besides, many wine exporters prefer to make money on prestige rather than actual quality
In short, the quality isn't always that great abroad, but the price sure skyrockets.
Vin de pays are cheap crap in their immense majority, but a few are great, because they aren't random mix of crap, but rather an elaborate micx that gives a great product... But being mixes, they can't have an official location name ; they're like small brands."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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I always found the location names to be highly misleading. Sure, it tells you where the wine is from but you have no clue as to what grape types are used and the type of grape has WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY more impact on the finish wine then region does.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Well, many bottles display the grape type somewhere. And for many regions, the grape type is more advertised than the precise location (Alsace's Riesling and Gewürtzraminer, Charentes' Pinot). But I agree it is misleading, or requires an excellent knowledge of Wine when no indication is written.Originally posted by Oerdin
I always found the location names to be highly misleading. Sure, it tells you where the wine is from but you have no clue as to what grape types are used and the type of grape has WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY more impact on the finish wine then region does.
The French wine industry is deeply divided, btw, between keeping the old location system, or switching to the brand system. I think a mix of the two would be the best idea."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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What that means is you have to trust the winemaker or the vineyard much more in the case of French wines. Also, French wines are much more dependent on the vintage (i.e. year of the grapes) than New World wines.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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Buy cheap, buy in bulk. After the first couple of bottles, everything taste fine.Golfing since 67Comment
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Yeah, just like beer. You only need the first sixpack to be good.
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Trader Joes
Don't you live near Las Vegas? If so, go to Trader Joes and buy a case of Charles Shaw Merlot. This is really nice drinking stuff and it is selling for $1.99/bottle. A case will only set you back $24.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
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There are all kinds of really good red wines...
it all depends on how much cash you're willing to spend.Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.Comment
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As long as they leave Bordeaux alone.Originally posted by Spiffor
Well, many bottles display the grape type somewhere. And for many regions, the grape type is more advertised than the precise location (Alsace's Riesling and Gewürtzraminer, Charentes' Pinot). But I agree it is misleading, or requires an excellent knowledge of Wine when no indication is written.
The French wine industry is deeply divided, btw, between keeping the old location system, or switching to the brand system. I think a mix of the two would be the best idea. Vive le Haut-Medoc! Vive le St. Emilion! Vive le Pauillac! :hic: 
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