Liberals and Conservatives Unite

[GePap]

NEVER!!!,

unless it is the libertarians and objectivists we decide to gang up on!

[Whaleboy]

unless it is the libertarians and objectivists we decide to gang up on!

Bring it on!!

[GePap]

* imagines elijah and bezerker in same team...

Nah, just TOOOOO weird, that.

[red_jon]

Oerdin, I like your thinking. I'm appointing you position as the head of the Ministry of Truth.

[Whaleboy]

We should do this as a deathmatch on UT!

EDIT: And I second red-jon

[Az]

Originally posted by GePap
NEVER!!!,

unless it is the libertarians and objectivists we decide to gang up on!

[Rogan Josh]

Isn't this a contradiction? If you form a party of apathetics, they are no longer apathetic.

[Whaleboy]

We'll, you'd need to dose them up on beer, football, and anything else that would inhibit the process of thinking. Unfortunately, that would result in the BNP, but hey you wanted to know!

[Dinner]

Originally posted by red_jon
Oerdin, I like your thinking. I'm appointing you position as the head of the Ministry of Truth.

What's the salary?

[red_jon]

12 sex slaves a day and 3 shiny pennies.

Elijah, you get to not be enslaved

[Sarxis]

"Liberals and Conservatives UNITE! Form of... Beurocratic Elitists!"

[Spiffor]

Actually, I have read quite a few things about the non-participation issue (it is the core of my studies this year).
There are many reasons as to why people participate or not, and you are SURE to be wrong if you assume one really stands out.

To begin, there are two kind of comparisons in participation rates:
- the internal comparison (who in country X votes ?)
- the external comparison (does country X vote more than country Y ?)

For the internal comparison, there are quite a few things that explain voting variations, but the main one is age. Older people vote more. As simple as that.
Of course, then you have involvement in society at large (which has a big impact on involvement in politics in particular), you have income differences etc.

For the external comparison, the most important reason by far is the stake of the election. For example, in Malta, all the power is kept by a one-chamber Parliament elected every five years IIRC. No Mayors, no president, nobody else is elected, and the Parliament is the only source of power. There is 95% participation in Malta. Of course, the Amreican system with tons of checks and balances, with an election every two years etc. is less attractive. BTW, Switzerland also sees less attendence in elections because every important decision will be taken by referendum anyway.

Besides, elections are not the only way to show you're interested in society. Actually, the US is a country far less apathetic than, say, Austria, because so many people are involved in neighborhood associations, sport associations and the like. While not necessarily being involved in Politics, these people don't only think in terms of "me-me-me", or are lazy. Simply, the political system, the political parties etc don't give any incentive to vote.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Among the worst offenders. Those who support conservatism because it serves their wallet.

Why is this bad? They support an ideology because it is best for them. I'd imagine there are plenty on the left who do the same (the poor who support leftism because they give them higher welfare checks).

[Dinner]

Originally posted by red_jon
12 sex slaves a day and 3 shiny pennies.

Elijah, you get to not be enslaved

Woot! Sign me up.

[Whaleboy]

12 sex slaves a day and 3 shiny pennies.

Elijah, you get to not be enslaved

Hey!!! I'd make a great sex slave!!