It's a Wonderful Race

[Evil Knevil]

Replacing an anti-white 'culture' with an 18th century level of cultural imperialism does not wash.

Yes Western Civilization has achieved many things. But Other civilizations were just as advanced, or achieved very many things as well. The Civilizations of the Songhai area was easily as advanced as our Western ones. It was only after the plagues that we started to become a force in the rest of the world. Arabic civilization has an extremely proud heritage as well. As do the civilizations of the Indian subcontinent... and the Chinese... and Indonesia ....

[Whaleboy]

What a load of bull!!! If it was worthy of debate, I would say that its using the lamest strawman of the non-racist argument, and one of the most subjective, irrational, and emotive arguments against the strawman!.

How the hell is it retarded and offensive.

Retarded for reasons above, offensive because it shamelessly derides other culture, assuming that "white culture" or "western civilisation" is the best.

Oh yes, its also retarded because if white culture didn't exist, other cultures would have had more room for innovation and possibly done a much better job than whites! Perhaps if indians were the dominant civilisation, we wouldn't be killing our planet.

Its assuming that in the absense of white culture, all others would remain "cave dwelling savages".

[Az]

Retarded for reasons above, offensive because it shamelessly derides other culture, assuming that "white culture" or "western civilisation" is the best.

[Whaleboy]

Care to elaborate Azazel? (or are you agreeing... I'm too tired to tell the difference).

[Az]

I obviously don't agree with the racism in the link, but again, this de-legimatisation that you and your ilk do to a pov that believes in existance of cultural superiority is baseless. Obviously, those two don't have to go together, though sadly, some people mix between them.

If you're tired, get some sleep.

[Whaleboy]

de-legimatisation that you and your ilk do to a pov that believes in existance of cultural superiority is baseless

Not at all. Indeed, you have to show (to go out on a limb.. to prove) that a culture is, or can be superior.

On what basis do you judge that? Any method of judging will fall alongside one position (culture) or another, so it cannot be truly objective. You can only have one culture better than another when judging by certain paramaters, that are inherently subjective, so no culture can be objectively superior.

I think you will find, that is not baseless.

Its 13:40 here, I have no intention of during the day!

EDIT: And just what is my "ilk"?

[red_jon]

Azazel I've just seen a porn model who looks very much like you.

[Az]

elijah: your 'ilk' are other moral relativists.

RJ: post a pic of him.

[Elok]

Er, I get a 404 when I click on that; only half of it is recognized as a link. Everything after the first space is left out. I'd copy it manually, but I'd rather not have that URL pop up on my address bar. People might wonder what my interest was in that organization, to put it mildly...

[Whaleboy]

Elok: Delete your history.

your 'ilk' are other moral relativists

Bah! You're just insecure because you know we're right!

EDIT: I trust the irony isn't lost on you there

[Az]

well who are you to judge who's right or not?
(continuing the joke )

[red_jon]

Hows Azazel been paying the rent?

[Whaleboy]

If that looks like Azazel, then Azazel looks disturbingly like me!

[Whaleboy]

well who are you to judge who's right or not?