Nigerian woman appeals stoning sentence

[Jules]

Originally posted by St Leo
Since when is Bill Maher liberal? I've caught a few episodes of Politically Incorrect and they always had a conservative slant.

You don't have to call for the keeping of women and blacks in cages in order to be considered conservative.

Ok, I'll concede: Bill Maher = bad example. It was just the only name to pop into my head since I saw him on Larry King Weekend a few days ago.

* St Leo recalls a certain recent Alabama courthouse incident

I view the Alabama courthouse shenanigans as rather harmless compared to, say, what happened in Milwaukee when an autistic boy died during a fundie exorcism. I don't think the Ten Commandments monument is really hurting anyone, so if it'll shut the fundies up for a while then let 'em have it. As Homer Simpson would say, "Let the baby have his bottle!"

[St Leo]

There's nothing wrong with giving the babies their bottles, but there is definitely something wrong with giving babies their crack cocaine. The legal system is based on precedent and I'd rather not let the Old Testament to ever infect it.

[Odin]

This is why I am an Athiest. :q

[MrFun]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Because they can't prove he was the father, while the fact that she had a child is evidence that she did have sex. That's the excuse, anyway, but really, it's about controling women. Africa, Muslim, Christian, and Animist, are almost all despicable towards women. At least one Muslim country is rather enlightened in its treatment of women: Morocco. Algeria was, but the fundies there have been slaughtering women there.

AMEN

[Kuciwalker]

stupid fundie bastards

[Sava]

so if it'll shut the fundies up for a while then let 'em have it

you don't teach a baby that it can get what it wants by throwing a tantrum... if you give an inch, they'll want another... and another... and another... and next thing you know, we're stoning people in Detroit for adultery...

[Jules]

Originally posted by Sava
you don't teach a baby that it can get what it wants by throwing a tantrum... if you give an inch, they'll want another... and another... and another... and next thing you know, we're stoning people in Detroit for adultery...

You mean like Attorney General John Ashcroft tearing up the Constitution bit by bit?

[Sava]

You mean like Attorney General John Ashcroft tearing up the Constitution bit by bit?

now your gettin' it.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Because they can't prove he was the father, while the fact that she had a child is evidence that she did have sex. That's the excuse, anyway, but really, it's about controling women. Africa, Muslim, Christian, and Animist, are almost all despicable towards women. At least one Muslim country is rather enlightened in its treatment of women: Morocco. Algeria was, but the fundies there have been slaughtering women there.

Let's get a group together and offer to fund a paternity testing lab! I wonder what they would say to that?

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Sava
you don't teach a baby that it can get what it wants by throwing a tantrum... if you give an inch, they'll want another... and another... and another... and next thing you know, we're stoning people in Detroit for adultery...

Well, if it's the people who make those SUVs that might not be such a bad idea.

[Sava]

Well, if it's the people who make those SUVs that might not be such a bad idea.

... sigh...

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
There are a minority of Christians who believe the Bible is literally and inerrantly true

Sure, but has it always been the case ? Was it the case when Galileo was punished because his theory went against some obscure verse ? Was it the case when Heretics and witches were burned ? I don't think so. Christianty in the past was able to be as stupid as Islam today. Islam's main problem is not the scripture itself. Islam's main problem is that it didn't go through a mainstream critical reflection on its scriptures.

Whereas with a Islam, the teaching about the Koran is that it was sent by God to correct problems with previous scripture, and it is perfect and literally true.

You're probably right that's the claim of the Koran, and many people probably believe it. But then again, there are differences between Muslim countries in how these beliefs are enforced. In Morocco and Tunisia, most city women don't have to wear a veil. In the ME, they are veiled and under the men authority (but with some extent of freedom, especially in the cities). Under the Taliban, women were slaves.
These differences show that the Koran can be differently enforced. It is pretty easy to do so anyway, since it contradicts itself aplenty.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Spiffor

These differences show that the Koran can be differently enforced. It is pretty easy to do so anyway, since it contradicts itself aplenty.

As do most religious texts. Its part of their charm

[Sikander]

Re: Re: Nigerian woman appeals stoning sentence

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
You should study up on the Magdelene Laundries in Ireland to see what Christians in the modern world are capable of doing to young women who show signs of sexuality.

I'm no christian, but I know what I'm capable of doing to young women who show signs of sexuality and that's terrifying enough for them.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by our_man

There's something I've been wondering about with regard to cases like these. Sharia is Islamic Law. Why don't these women simply convert to another religion and argue as they are no longer Muslim they have no right to be tried in an Islamic court.

This is just common sense to me, so why don't they do it to escape death?

It doesn't work like that. Sharia is the law of the province or state, and no one can opt out of it whatever their religion.