Was the world a better place during the Cold War?

[Dinner]

I suppose you are equally upset with Russia's 19th century advance into Tartarstan? At least the Albanians became the majority through natural population growth and not through violent conquest.

[Serb]

Do you know how Tatarstan was called before Ivan IV conquered Kazan?

Hint for you: try find something about Golden Horde, Mongol invasion and about Tatar-Mongol occupation of Russia (as we call it).
EDIT: Try 16th century, not 19th and "Tatarstan", not "Tartarstan".

[VetLegion]

Che is right, Yugoslavia was on the peak of freedom for the individual in the late 80ies. But even earlier individual was relatively free if he/she was not a nationalist.

Though you are wrong on Kosovo, Milosevic is being tried for Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia, in that order I think. Kosovo part of the trial is over.

Milosevic was never popular in say Croatia or Slovenia, only among the Serbs. Actually, when he came to power in Serbia it was on a wave of Serb nationalism. His rhetorics contributed to rising nationalism in other states too.

[VetLegion]

As for Kosovo, those who are justifying the cleansing and whitewashing the Serbs

Milosevic had already cleansened tens of thousands of people before he was bombed.

By the way, he was also the person who revoked the autonomy of Kosovo it had under Yugoslavian constitution thus encouraging the extremist Albanian groups such as UCK.

Kosovo problem goes way back and communist Yugoslavia poured huge money in it's infrastructure and economy to try and reduce poverty and Albanian nationalism there. All of the policemen in Kosovo were Serbian although they were a minority of population there (even prior to 1945 Oerdin).

The argument that 'Kings were crowned there' is weak to say the least. Wasn't German Reich proclaimed in Versailles?

Anyway it is demographics which defeated Serbs in Kosovo. Fault of nobody else but themselves.

[BeBMan]

Re: Was the world a better place during the Cold War?

Originally posted by Gangerolf
What if the Iron Courtain still existed?

Then i probably wouldn´t be able to post here

[St Leo]

Re: Re: Was the world a better place during the Cold War?

Originally posted by BeBro


Then i probably wouldn´t be able to post here

Neither would I.

[Saras]

I'd probably be under arrest for insurrection.

[MrFun]

So the Soviet Union government was guilty of horrendous crimes that it committed against its own citizens.

But why isn't the United States guilty of repression and suppression in other countries where our government imposed puppet dictatorships?

[Saras]

Only hitlers germany rivals the USSR in that aspect.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Serb
Because it was a quote, smartass.

Oh. I thought that it meant you didn't believe it because I was was going to tell you differently.

[Ecthy]

I've thought about this before. I'd be in the Free German Youth, the standard youth organisation for 15+ year olds in the GDR. Our Israelis would mostly be in the USSR still, with closed borders and especially bad relatiosn with the state of Israel.

It'd be fun, especially since I'd hardly ever come across Civ

Ideological debates would be a lot stronger in forums, with many people from actual communist countries posting, or at least some.

Interesting thoughts. About as much as those that involve a different end of the war

[DanS]

We spent way too much money on the military in the Cold War. Everybody did. We spend much, much less nowadays, so everybody makes out better in the end.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DanS
We spent way too much money on the military in the Cold War.

That was one of the the causes of the Cold War, not the other way around. We needed an excuse for our military Keynesianism, so we came up with the great Communist threat. The Cold War pulled us out of the post-WWII recession.

[DanS]

That was one of the the causes of the Cold War, not the other way around. We needed an excuse for our military Keynesianism, so we came up with the great Communist threat. The Cold War pulled us out of the post-WWII recession.

I don't buy it. It doesn't pass the sniff test. Just look at the end of the Cold War. USSR collapses, US military spending plummets.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It doesn't pass the sniff test.

Doesn't even pass the rational, non-conspiracy theory test .

Albanians has no right to live there and to drow Serbs away. This land never belonged to Albanians, they always were strangers on this land.

Oh, so you admit you are a xenophobe?