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  • #31
    Originally posted by Oerdin
    Let's review your two posts Paiktis:



    Followed by:


    So was it a house demolition or was it the result of Israel killing terrorist leaders?
    That's a question you should ask yourself Oerdin. Is that terrorist leaders being killed or palestinian families having their houses destroyed? And if that was the latter then why was it done? What purpose did it serve? I'm sure you can find the answer it's not that hard in a conflict where everyone's fighting for territory...

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    • #32
      What purpose did killing 20 Israeli civilians server?

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      • #33
        I'm sure you can figure that out as well.

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        • #34
          Paiktis, answer this question, if no other: Who do you think broke the ceasefire?

          I'm not being rhetorical.

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          • #35
            I support "erradication" of terrorist vermin. They have no interest in peace, in a Palestinian state side-by-side with Israel, and no interest in abiding by the laws of war.

            What I do not understand is why Israel never removes Arafat. I can only think that Washington is the problem.

            I personally can never understand why Washington never sides with Israel when it comes to its justified self-defense in the face of barbarism. Washington is part of the reason why the ME situation never gets solved.
            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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            • #36
              skywalker,
              Why don't you answer my question first?

              edit: I'm not being rhetorical either nor do I do shophistries. Nor am I "pro palestinian" or "pro israeli" or close my eyes to the terrorist attacks. Just highlighting some other aspects of the story as well, seing we have enough people advocating the opposite side.

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              • #37
                Because the Washington is the capitol. If the capitol was, say, NYC, it would be NYC that never sided with Israel :P

                EDIT: re Ned

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by paiktis22
                  skywalker,
                  Why don't you answer my question first?
                  Because you asked Oerdin, not me

                  How should I know the answer? All you have is a picture of a house being demolished, with a sad girl standing in front of it. It could be from Chicago, for all I know.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by skywalker


                    Because you asked Oerdin, not me

                    How should I know the answer? All you have is a picture of a house being demolished, with a sad girl standing in front of it. It could be from Chicago, for all I know.
                    LOL, so you don't know or want to believe that Israel systematically engages in demolitions of palestinian residences?

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                    • #40
                      Know, I said that the PICTURE ITSELF provides no useful information.

                      There. I answered yours, you answer mine.

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                      • #41
                        This is not an answer. The question is: why Israel systematically demolishes palestinian residences. What possible good can come out of this? For what reason are they doing it? Under what justification (or pretext) and what are the ramifications of even more deprivation for the more and more families that have to move out?

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                        • #42
                          Since I know little about this, I'd guess Israel is demolishing homes of people they're deporting or whatever sending them to Palestine's called.

                          In short, I don't know because I don't have enough information.

                          Answer the question...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by paiktis22
                            This is not an answer. The question is: why Israel systematically demolishes palestinian residences. What possible good can come out of this? For what reason are they doing it?
                            They do it for two reasons:

                            They do it as punishment to suicide bombers, so that future suicide bombers will be disuaded - and in a t least two or three cases, Palestinians planning to do suicide bombers turned themselves in to Israeli authorities and didn't go through with an attack to murder civilians.

                            They also do it to buildings where terrorists have used as bombmaking labarotories, have weapon supplies and have tunnels from egypt from which weapons get smuggled in.

                            Whether or not these are justified, they certainly aren't done for no reason.

                            Under what justification (or pretext) and what are the ramifications of even more deprivation for the more and more families that have to move out?
                            The families of the suicide bombers still get blood money from the Saudis (if not Saddam, anymore). They won't be "deprived" for long.
                            Last edited by Edan; August 22, 2003, 20:26.
                            "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by skywalker
                              Since I know little about this, I'd guess Israel is demolishing homes of people they're deporting or whatever sending them to Palestine's called.
                              This is an answer. Wrong but an answer.


                              In short, I don't know because I don't have enough information
                              It wouldn't hurt to find out



                              Answer the question...
                              Sure. 20 Israelis died because of the occupation of the Palestinians, their deprivation and terror inflicted on them by Israel.

                              They also died because of the fanatism of the large portion of desperate and thus extremists that exist in the Palestinian population. When one has nothing to lose...

                              They also died in order for the terrorist masterminds to come closer to their goals. Those vary between terrorist cells.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by paiktis22
                                Sure. 20 Israelis died because of the occupation of the Palestinians, their deprivation and terror inflicted on them by Israel.

                                They also died because of the fanatism of the large portion of desperate and thus extremists that exist in the Palestinian population. When one has nothing to lose...

                                They also died in order for the terrorist masterminds to come closer to their goals. Those vary between terrorist cells.
                                So you condone it? Anyway, not the question I was talking about.

                                I didn't ask why they died. I asked when you think the ceasefire was broken (which event, the bombing or the assassination)?

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