When did terrorism actually work?

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by rmsharpe
us versus them.

That simple?

Would you care to give us a breakdown of each team's rosters?

[Mr. President]

That'd take a pretty long time.

One day it'll bite you in the rear, Euro.

[Urban Ranger]

The Zionists used it successfully against the Brits.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Saras
Source? Not that I don't believe it, it's the first time I hear this version.

Oredin is at least correct wrt to the lease of New Territories (the area north of the aptly named Boundary Street, plus all the islands other than Hong Kong).

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by Mr. President
One day it'll bite you in the rear, Euro.

[WRangler Rhymer]

Terrorism works only on this level, it causes fear, and gains support of sympathatic people to join the terrorist cause. Other then that terrorism is just the desperate attempts of people to bring about what they wish. If a terrorist did not have alot kids then they would snuff themselfs out by all dieing in suicide attacks, or if they lost support of people. It is not a very good tactic to use to wage wars, but it is good for distractions, gaining support of other terrorist wannabees, and quick very high destructive attack on millions.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by paiktis22
The Malvidas, (they ARE in Latin America aren't they? As far as I know english is not the langauge there) had not achieved independance in the first place, isn't that true?

About as relevant as saying Cyprus is off the coast of Turkey- and expecting everyone to call it by the Turkish name for Cyprus.

Guyana, Surinam and Guiane (or French Guyana) are all in South America- in Guyana they speak English, in Surinam, Dutch, and in French Guyana, French. 'Latin' America has two main languages, Brazilian Portuguese and Spanish, as well as a host of Indian languages, and large populations of, for instance, Japanese immigrants in Brazil and Peru. And a colony of Welsh speakers in Argentina itself. I wouldn't have bothered replying to such a tedious lame duck troll, but the pathetic ignorant sneering riled me no end.

[Bereta_Eder]

And I suppose its english inhabitants just happened to pop out of the large banana trees in 3.000 BC?

[Alexander's Horse]

The state of Israel was founded by terrorists.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by paiktis22
And I suppose its english inhabitants just happened to pop out of the large banana trees in 3.000 BC?

No, but I'm beginning to suspect your ancestors may have failed to.

Tell me, were the Spanish or Portuguese 'native' to South America?

Regardless, the Falklands were a British colony, the inhabitants spoke English and called themselves Falkland Islanders. Not the Spanish name for French whalers out of St. Malo.

La Grece- nul points.

[Bereta_Eder]

I'm sure the english made some great mud huts in the Malvinas.

[Spiffor]

I'm pretty sure the Brits would have called American minutemen 'terrorists' if the word was fashionable at that time.

Terrorists rarely describe themselves this way. They are considered 'terrorists' only because an opposite (more influent) party successfully tags them so.

If we were a forum of radical Palestinians / Chechens / FARC or whatever, I highly doubt we would be talkin about terrorists... Except when talking about the oppressive Jewish/Russian/Capitalist pig-dogs that is

[Zevico]

Urban Ranger:correct me if I'm wrong, but the Haganah actually didn't commit any terrorist actions? And considering the Haganah/Jewish Agency represented the overwhelming majority, could one not argue that your statement is a generalisation, and that "the" zionists did no such thing? Then again, those zionists who committed these actions did succeed, I suppose, but they were certainly helped along by arab attacks in the region as well.

[germanos]

What a strange question.

I've never heard of a group calling themselves terrorists.

I dare say that therefore there is no terrorist agenda.

So what would define their succes .


Terrorism is a typical term that is reserved for the beholder of the perceived terrorist act. The term is coined for internal use of the victim of the act committed against them. Labelling an act as terrorism is a defensive move, not an offensive one.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Oerdin
You're thinking of the New Territories which were only leased for 100 years. The island was siezed during the first Opium War and was British "in perpetuity". Thatcher decided that the island couldn't survive economically without the new territories so she agreed to give both back to China.

The New Territories were all that was leased. Hong Kong Island was British Territory. However, I thought that their claim pre-dated the Opium Wars...Hmmm...will have to look it up.