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  • #16
    Originally posted by Spiffor
    Well, and I'm even more pushing you to buy a Dell, because this wway you may want to visit and post in the Civ3 forum !
    Heh. Purchases like this cannot be made on the fly, IMO. Besides, if I were to get a new iMac instead of a Dell Dimension, I'd likely pop up in the Civ III forums more often — after all, the Mac does (at least) have Civ III, even if none of the expansions have come over yet.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ned
      I have a Dell Dimension 8100. It came with Windows ME. I upgraded top XP as soon as it came out. When I began having troubles with my DVD, I found that many others had similar problems with this DVD. It was a hardware issue with the DVD (Samsung). When I called Dell (I was still in warranty) they refused to help or to honor their warranty. They said that either I would have to reinstall the Windows ME purchased from them or to install Windows XP purchased from them. I asked whether there was any difference between Windows XP purchased from an store and Windows XP purchased from Dell, they said there was none. It is just that buying the Windows XP from the store violated their warranty - on the hardware.

      So, you think Dell has good service?

      I don't. If that is why you are going to Dell, I'd say, forget it.
      Hmm ... my first Dell horror story. Hopefully it won't get up to the rate of disparagement that Gateway has (rightfully, I might add) has earned for its *shoddy* products.

      Actually, I was hoping to save a bit of money with a PC purchase over that of an iMac, but unless I re-customize my proposal, that doesn't seem to be the case. The "big-ticket" upgrades that boosted the price seem to be the larger HD and better monitor.

      More and more, my purchase decision hinges on what I can do with the purchase. I love Apple's stability and superior quality, and not having to worry about constant threats due to a buggy OS, and a crapload of third-party peripherals/software that may not always communicate properly w/each other and/or XP itself. But I wish Apple had more software available to it — in this instance, the complete Civ III. And 10.3 won't be able to run Classic software, so that chucks Civ II out the window (no pun intended).

      **sigh** I'll probably wait until October before going ahead with any purchase. By then there should be word in the Mac world about the status of Civ III Conquests, the upcoming 10.3 and so on. Those are the make-or-break factors right now. Probably piddly stuff in the larger scheme of things but, hey, what can I say? I'd like to have a system on which I can play Civ in its entirety — from good old Civ II to all of Civ III. I could do that on a PC, and also type reports, work on novels, cruise the Internet and so on. I can do that on the iMac as well, sans the games. But that's a major "sans" IMO.

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      • #18
        Grrrrrrrrrr...........if you decide on this, and you don't order it from me, you are a moron seriously though, the 8300 is one of the best computers on the market right now (without spending a fortune). I have an 8200 and love it. The 1703FP is an incredible monitor, and the 8300 is an all around great system.

        Once again.

        *********I WORK FOR DELL************

        I'm not sure what all i can do for you, but i will make sure that you get the best price possible. The current promotions are pretty huge, so if you are planning on buying, before wednesday is a good time. I work sunday, tuesday and wednesday. If you are serious, PM me, and i will give you my extension.
        "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

        "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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        • #19
          Kaak:

          Hey, cool. I'll keep you in mind if I do order from Dell. I can't be hurried into a decision of this magnitude, however, so I'll have to take my chances with the specials and hope they're good when I do order a PC or iMac.

          Gatekeeper
          "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

          "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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          • #20
            it's no problem, i didn't know what kind of a time frame you were looking at. If it was going to be soon, or later. Anyway, if you have any questions about the computer, or the hardware in it, i'd be happy to answer. I know it inside and out
            "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

            "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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            • #21
              Can you help Ned?
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #22
                lol...i'm sales, and not tech support, but it sounds like he just needs to get an updated driver. You can't expect changing OSs on an older computer, and not needing a driver for anything...
                "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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                • #23
                  Kaak,

                  The only thing I am not happy with Dell is that when buying a MS Program like Office, they give a Dell version and no longer the MS standard product. And when, for some reason the system asks for the CD, it does not recognize the Dell CD.

                  Am I wrong somewhere?
                  Statistical anomaly.
                  The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                  • #24
                    i haven't had that experience. sorry.
                    "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                    "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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                    • #25
                      whatever you do, i'd drop the windowsxp home and go for windowsxp pro.

                      that is, unless you want a lobotomized version of xp...
                      B♭3

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                      • #26
                        Ned, could this link be of any good help? http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums

                        Dell Forums->Dimension etc. I have found those forii very useful.
                        Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                        - Paul Valery

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                        • #27
                          I have a Dell Deminsions 8250 which I bought last Dec. I have nothing but good things to say about Dell and their products.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #28
                            i love them. no other company have i encountered responds so quickly to maintenance calls... and running over 150 computers, that's very very nice.
                            B♭3

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DAVOUT
                              Kaak,

                              The only thing I am not happy with Dell is that when buying a MS Program like Office, they give a Dell version and no longer the MS standard product. And when, for some reason the system asks for the CD, it does not recognize the Dell CD.

                              Am I wrong somewhere?
                              Hmm, they shipped me the standard MS product. The only thing I've found to be different is the default "support and help" button in the start menu bring up Dell's online support page instead of Microsofts.

                              I've twice called Dell's service department when I've done bone headed things to my system and they helped me quickly and easily both times.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                              • #30
                                Q Cubed:

                                One of my friends advised me to go with XP Pro as well, if I choose a PC over an iMac. He said it was slightly more stable than XP Home.

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                                "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

                                "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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