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    Consider this. It is pretty much safe to say that no one has come back in time to visit us. This means that in the future of intelligent life, not a single being will ever travel backward in time to our time. If someone will ever travel to us in time and try to let us know about it, it would happen. The fact that this never will happen could be because a)no one develops the technology. I highly doubt this because of the growth of human knowledge (let's just keep this part of the discussion focused only on humans for now) is exponential. Look at the difference in technology from 1200-1300. Or even 1,000 B.C. to 1 A.D. And look at the difference between 1950-present. The more we learn, the faster we learn new information. It is probable that in the next 100 years, the new technology discovered will make the leaps and bounds of technology during our time look like nothing. We will probably be much more advanced. So at the rate we're going, if we survive just another few thousand years, think of how advanced we will be. And if we survive many more years then that, then wouldn't it be probable that we will discover the technology to travel forward and backward in time? We've already discovered that the closer towards the speed of light you travel, the more time slows down. Yes, there is always the chance that despite the technology time travel will always be impossible, but I doubt it. Is anything truly impossible?

    The fact that no one will ever come backward in time to us could also mean b)that we decide not to find out how to travel backward in time because we think it would be a bad idea. I highly doubt this would be the reason, because humans are hungry for new information, and time travel has fascinated us for a long time. I am sure that we would try to find out how to do it.

    It could also mean that c)we find out how to travel backward in time but we decide not to do it because it could change the future. I doubt this also. Once a new technology is discovered, it always becomes more available to the people as time passes. Take the airplane. In 1910, very few people owned one. During the present, many people do. The same goes for time travel. Eventually, many people will have the ability to travel through time. Even if we try to stop the average person from doing it, it is probable that sometime in the future some people would get their hands on whatever is necessary to travel to time. If this happens, then it is very probable that some idiot would decide to go back in time for whatever reason, just as there will always be some idiot that doesn't take all of his medicine for TB and it becomes drug-resistant.

    The finaly reason that no one will ever visit us could be d)we are wiped out before we discover how to travel through time. Because there are billions of stars in just our galaxy and billions of galaxies in the universe, chances are that there is a lot of life out there, and some of it wouldn't be good. So, there is a gooed chance that some day, aliens will come and try to destroy us. Also, we are very stupid and there is a good chance we will destroy ourselves. And unfortunately, I have no reason to belive that reason d could not happen.

    Just some food for thought.
    "The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

  • #2
    it would certainly be really cool if time travel were possible. I'd love to go back to Ancient Rome and see what it was like.

    However, time travel is probably physically impossible.
    'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
    G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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    • #3
      well its quite possible that time travel does exist, but there are simply very strict codes about not interfering. I'm sure by then we will have figured out how to make ourselves invisible etc. So in fact we may be being watched right now by people who wanted to see "what ancient times looked like."

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      • #4
        It is also very possible that some time travelers are here incognito, and are messg with our timeline right now. After all, how could we notice thigs don't go in the "right" direction ?
        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Spiffor
          It is also very possible that some time travelers are here incognito, and are messg with our timeline right now. After all, how could we notice thigs don't go in the "right" direction ?
          That's the thing. We would have no way to know if time travellers were messing with the timeline. If someone did change the timeline, we only experience the "new" timeline. We would never know that there even was an "old" timeline.
          'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
          G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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          • #6
            You guys might be right, they might be invisible but I think that sometime in the future someone would go back in time to our time and make themselves known. But this won't happen because no one has done this in our time, so I think that means that probably the answer is reason a or reason d, and I think it is probably reason d.
            "The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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            • #7
              That's the thing. We would have no way to know if time travellers were messing with the timeline. If someone did change the timeline, we only experience the "new" timeline. We would never know that there even was an "old" timeline.
              This gives me an awesome idea for a novel. Mankind is about to wipe itself out. So some smart people are sent back in time to steer the world leaders away from destroying ourselves. Of course they wouldn't tell the public or anything.

              And obviously, Bush didn't get one of these advisors.
              "The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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              • #8
                What makes you say that there have been none? There was a guy who abused the stock and got a lot of money out of it, in his defence he tried to convince that he was from the future.


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                Time travel backwards is not possible.
                Sorry.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by johncmcleod
                  This gives me an awesome idea for a novel. Mankind is about to wipe itself out. So some smart people are sent back in time to steer the world leaders away from destroying ourselves. Of course they wouldn't tell the public or anything.
                  I've read a comic like that. The only difference is that the envoys from the future were scientists who intended to kill a present scientist (absolutely innocent, but he'd make a major breakthrough that would make the future destruction of Earth possible). The heroin wasn't too thrilled at the idea of killing an innocent despite the consequences.
                  "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                  "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                  "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                  • #10
                    Anyone who could hypothetically travel back in time must know that it would be a one way trip.

                    As soon as one enters a past timeframe, minute changes happen instantaneously, and the timeline deviates from the way it happened in ones history. That universe then continues on a separate path to the original, and one cannot return to the original.

                    Its rather like the "sum over histories" theory. If it was hypothetically possible, it would be idiocy at best. Still, I am working on a theory that it would impossible to travel back in time in a linear sense in the first place, but thus far it is analogous to going into a parrallel universe. As such, time travel is a contradiction in terms.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by johncmcleod


                      This gives me an awesome idea for a novel. Mankind is about to wipe itself out. So some smart people are sent back in time to steer the world leaders away from destroying ourselves. Of course they wouldn't tell the public or anything.

                      And obviously, Bush didn't get one of these advisors.
                      Awesome idea? From top of my head T1, T2, T3.

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                      • #12
                        Still, I am working on a theory that it would impossible to travel back in time in a linear sense in the first place
                        Are you a scientist or something or are you working with that at your leisure?
                        "The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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                        • #13
                          Time travel backwards is not possible.
                          We don't know much about space and time so I don't think it is safe to rule it out.

                          I thought this was an interesting thread and would get more replies. I'll bump it.
                          "The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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                          • #14
                            I could tell you guys the truth, but then I'd be killed upon my return.
                            Dom Pedro II - 2nd and last Emperor of the Empire of Brazil (1831 - 1889).

                            I truly believe that America is the world's second chance. I only hope we get a third...

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                            • #15
                              Too late Dom, I've already informed the Boss of your betrayal.
                              American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
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