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  • Official seal: US is fascist! (both joke and non-joke)

    I am fascinated with symbols, emblems and seals.

    And then I noticed the US senate seal. Cool huh?

    But guess, what, it has a clear fascio - the sign that represented fascism and it's idea (unity, state above all, militarism)

    And I also noticed it features an unclear red hat which is either a communist cap, or belongs to santa claus. very very wierd.

    I read the history page, but didn't notice they made reference to the fascio.
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  • #2
    Look into E Pluribus Unum.

    Then note the size and location of the olive branches in relation to the faschio.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • #3
      What is the symbolism of olive branches?
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      • #4
        The cap got to be the Phrygian cap or cap of liberty, also later used by French revolutionaries. Don't know exactly why that cap was chosen as a symbol.
        "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
        "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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        • #5
          Your avatar is very distracting, Mr. Sirotnikov.

          "E Pluribus Unum" means . . . something like "Unity in Diversity"?
          Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by geeslaka
            What is the symbolism of olive branches?
            Triumphant/victory
            Victorious athletes got it, but also roman generals during triumphal marches.
            "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
            "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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            • #7
              AI checked out, atually the phrygian cap/liberty cap was first used in France by Jacobites and came to the US only in the last years of the 18th century.
              "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
              "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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              • #8
                IIRC, the phrygian cap was worn by liberated slaves in ancient Greece.

                Curiously enough, the fascio is used in some French Republic's symbols too. For example, the French passport displays a big fascio:

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                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
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                • #9
                  But guess, what, it has a clear fascio

                  No, not has... It is a fiasco...
                  Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                  Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Spiffor
                    IIRC, the phrygian cap was worn by liberated slaves in ancient Greece.

                    Sure, that was it.
                    "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                    "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                    • #11
                      I thought the red cap has to do with Little Red Riding Hood
                      Blah

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                      • #12
                        Definitely Santa.
                        (I don't know)

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                        • #13
                          lol @ your avatar
                          Blah

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                          • #14
                            Woof!

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                            • #15
                              The link:

                              In the eighteenth century, the fasces received a second life, when the young United States and republican France started to use ancient Roman symbols. Both were progressive revolutionary nations that imitated the Roman republican constitution.

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