Bush is a what?

[st_swithin]

Pronunciation: 'bush
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English; akin to Old High German busc forest
Date: 14th century
1 a : SHRUB what gets peed upon regular by a bunchy o' classless b1tches.

[Whaleboy]

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[st_swithin]

Why, thank you my good Man.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Why don't you quote for us the relevant passages of the official U of Mich policy that you seem to think establishes a quota for admission of minorities?

Personally I'd like to see how one can explain the concept of "critical mass" as it was used at the U of M and not be talking about quotas. I'm fully willing to admit that I maybe jumping the gun but it just smells that way to me.

But if you absolutely must have a piece of a SCOTUS opinion that deals with my problems with the U of M Law School program: here

[st_swithin]

You know, Stefanie Maas and Stephanie Maas - the twins, remember?

[Berzerker]

Boris -

Oh bull****. Who here has attacked anyone over not approving of quotas? News flash: most people, even blacks, don't approve of quotas. Show me some AA programs that rely on quotas. Oh, you can't, since quotas are illegal!

Quotas are illegal? Can you show us the law that forbids employers to hire based on quotas? Furthermore, because AA and it's proponents don't want to defend quotas, they say quotas aren't required by law. Sure, you won't find the word "quota" in AA legislation but the effect of AA is no different for employers who fear discrimination lawsuits. The most effective (and not always effective) way to defend themselves from lawsuits is to hire people based on quotas, then if someone charges hiring discrimination, the employer can show they already have a diversified (quotas) workforce and therefore cannot be guilty of discrimination.

A Chicago company that makes lamps was accused of discrimination after a black woman was not hired. The company had ~25 employees with ~22 being hispanic, 1 black, and 2 whites. The company had to pay her the salary she would have gotten if she had been hired, then pay for ads asking others who had unsuccessfully applied for jobs in the past and settle with them. Then there was a fine on top of that - no trial, no jury, just bureaucrats deciding the fate of the company.

[Gibsie]

With such limited information however, it is entirely possible that she was actively discriminated against though. I've heard so much stuff on AA completely twisted over the years I'd never accept anecdotal evidence on the issue... except my own

[st_swithin]

You went to UCLA too, huh?

[Jac de Molay]

Hasnt every President mentioned god or quoted from the bible in the past?

Not as a rationale regarding a potential legal issue like gay marriage. If the reason for his legal stance is because his Bible says it's wrong, that's a pretty weak foundation.

[st_swithin]

Bush is a self-inflating weenie, not unlike a Ballpark frank.

[Berzerker]

With such limited information however, it is entirely possible that she was actively discriminated against though.

With virtually the entire workforce being hispanic in a mostly hispanic area, I doubt it was racial. Either the business wasn't hiring at the time or her qualifications weren't up to snuff in the opinion of the employer.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Elok
I don't know about homophobic, but certainly he's not very religious. What most people mistake for his religion is in fact an appeal to the alienated protestant honky culture that sprang up after the civil rights movement made it admirable to be a victim of society. The beliefs of said group aren't really connected or relevant to the Christian faith, and don't really count as a philosophy because they reflect an obsession with an idealized golden age that never really existed. All persecuted victim groups are that way if you ask me, but that's another story. The point is that his remarks were chosen to cater to the general insecurities of people who subscribe to an irrational worldview very loosely based on religion in the same sense that science fiction is based on science.
This has been a ramen dragon rant.

Good rant!

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
For DD:

http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/idaa/rebush.html

"We do not have, and have never had, quotas or numerical targets in either the Undergraduate or Law School admissions program." University of Michigan President Mary Sue Colemam responded.

Oh wait, I've got an even better one by Von Ribbentrop.

[MattH]

The University of Michigan admissions office does not say "We need 750 black people in this year". They don't have a number on a wall that they need to meet.

Canidates accumulate points based on what they have done. A good school gets you more points. Test scores get you points, but not so many as to make or break your entrance. Voulnteer activity gets you points. Getting into sports at the U of M gets you a LOT of points. Being a minority gets you some points too, but not more than sports, iirc.

The undeniable fact is that rich white kids, for the most cases, have a better chance of getting into law school. Racisim and "the Gap" is still very much present in our society, and passing laws to hide that won't help anyone. The problem has to be exposed and destroyed instead of being swept under the rug and equalizing education at any level is part of the solution.

From the Harpers Index thread:
Change since last year in federal spending to implement the No Child Left Behind Act: -$1,200,000,000
It sure looks like this administration is trying to help .

[Kuciwalker]

That's because "rich white kids" are often MORE CAPABLE than "poor black kids". They may not have been born with a higher innate intelligence, but they have often recieved a better education and had a greater encouragement to learn! The solution MUST BE to work on helping people with a lower socioeconomic status from a young age, rather than just awarding certain races "points" to help them get into college. By that time, they actually are dumber!