A Question For Bush Bashers

[Spiffor]

I don't think Bush is an unintelligent guy. Probably not the brightest, and definitely not the most competent for the job, but that doesn't make him a moron.

I also don't think he has made big, elaborated conspiracies. He and his team have manipulated the American public opinion with an age-old political technique, that is scaremongering. Bush did it well, and managed to add religious and jingoistic bigotry in the mix. This didn't require pure genius to be done, but it indeed required some skill.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Classic example of what I said, reds.

Sloww, how many intelligence points do you need to lie?

Example:

Police Officer: Are you snorting cocaine?
Coke Addict: Uh, no...
Police Officer: What is this white powder?
Coke Addict: Dunno.
Buddy: It's extra fine sugar I am using in baking. Stop sniffing it, man. That's sick. Are you out of glue or something?
Police Officer: Move along.

As you can see in my totally made-up example, the coke addict initiated the cover-up.

[Dom Pedro II]

I really don't know what to think of Bush... Regardless of whether he's a moron being used by big power players, or if he himself is the sly devil, either way I think his whole regime stinks...

I think we elected an administration of thugs who were just waiting for an excuse, and 9/11 gave it to them...

But I think Bush is like Mussolini... I mean, he looked like a big dumb ape, but he obviously wasn't, he was smart, or rather manipulative, enough to get himself to the position of power he was in. But what makes them both seem stupid is that they are not in anyway subtle, and when you are trying to pull some under-handed stuff, that, in itself, is stupid.

[Verto]

Not another one...

[reds4ever]

I take it the bridge has fallen in on this Troll?

[MrFun]

Bush is a homophobe who publicly denounced relationships between two people of the same gender.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I say Bush will show conclusive evidence of WOMD,

I say so too. It's pretty generally accepted that Saddam had WMDs in '92. So what happened to them? Either Saddam destroyed them because he suddenly became a peacenik hippie (which I personally doubt) or else he hid them.

However, we invaded Iraq because of the "imminent threat" that Saddam was going to give/sell some of his WMDs to his good ally al Qaeda. It's the "alliance" prong of Dubya's justification that I'm waiting to see.

[Nubclear]

Re: A Question For Bush Bashers

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I sit here and watch them say:
Bush is a idiot. A moron. A cowboy.
He doesn't know wtf is going on, or how to relate to a civilized world.

These same people turn around and say:
Bush is scamming people. Tricking. Setting up.
Initiating cover ups.

I guess what I'm asking is, which is it?
Whichever suits your argument at that particular moment in time, is the only possible answer.
A sly moron, isn't an option.


Pretty rinky-dink, if you ask me.

I sit here and watch them say:
He shipped them to Syria! He had WoMD! He's a terrorist! INVADE SYRIA!

These same people turn around and say:
He shipped them to Iran! He had WoMD! He's a terrorist! INVADE IRAN!

These same people turn around and say:
The WoMD are buried in Iraq! We will find them! It's just a matter of time!

These same people turn around and say:
He tried getting Uranium from Africa! This proves he has WoMD! He's a terrorist!

These same people turn around and say:
Well, he didn't try to get Uranium from Africa its true....But it was never really about the WoMD! We did it to free the Iraqi people!

These same people turn around and say:
We've already found the WoMD! Remember the fertilizer? Yep! WoMD!

I guess what I'm asking is, what is it?
Whichever suits your argument at that particular
moment in time, is the only possible answer.
You can't choose all the options.

Pretty rinky-dink, if you ask me.

[Sandman]

Don't forget his utter lack of charisma.

[Odin]

I have a friend who says the reason that Saddam gave the inspectors a hard time might of been because he DID distroy them , but he acted like he didn't to not act weak in the eyes of his supporters (remember that he had strong support from hypernationalist arabs, the forerunner of the Ba'athists, in the 70's and 80's).

I Think Bush is a puppet of the Neo-Cons and Big Business. I don't think he is that smart either, he shouldn't of even been accepted to Yale, but then again, $$$ corrupts.

[David Floyd]

I say Bush will show conclusive evidence of WOMD, about the time he hits the campaign trail.
He has to verify, of course. Takes time. Has to be sure.

So he's gonna use his "evidence" as a political tool, rather than just presenting the truth as it appears. Gotcha.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by David Floyd


So he's gonna use his "evidence" as a political tool, rather than just presenting the truth as it appears. Gotcha.

Please explain to David, how politicians really operate.


hint David: politicians don't know what "truth" is

[David Floyd]

Oh, I know. But people try to portray Bush as "honest", anyway.

[Chris 62]

Re: Re: A Question For Bush Bashers

Originally posted by paiktis22


What does that mean? It doesn't sound good.

It means "small and poorly made."

[Dis]

Bush doesn't take initiative

This blackout is the best example. 9/11 was another example.

He didn't do **** about terrorism until 9/11. He was playing the same thing Clinton did. Ignore it and hope it goes away. 9/11 forced him to deal with terrorism. Even Al Gore would have stomped Al Quida

Bush didn't deal with the overloaded electrical system. It takes a blackout to get his attention.

He is not proactive, but reactive.