IRS vs. KUGLIN "Pay No Taxes"

[blackice]

LINK

Forget the war in Iraq, Afghanistan and our excellent adventure in Liberia. Forget about Kobe, Arnold, Arriana, Scott and Laci. The biggest news of the entire week is that on August 8, 2003, the IRS was unable to convince a jury in Memphis, Tennessee that the Federal Tax Code requires the citizens to pay individual income taxes. I kid you not.

Buggest story of the week, I would have to agree, so did anyone see this on the news?

Thanks to the IRS’ arrogance and stupidity, and Kuglin’s refusal to plead to lesser charges, Kuglin accomplished what Bob Schultz and the other “tax protesters” had been denied all along: To force the IRS into a public debate and to answer the question of whether or not the Tax Code requires an individual to pay personal income taxes. Kuglin and her two attorneys, Larry Becraft and Robert Bernhoft, have unequivocally forced the IRS to show its hand, and 12 judges hearing that debate ruled the answer to be “NO”.

Pay no taxes in the US of A, it might be time to start packing.

[Dr. A. Cula]

Somewhat related question: what kind of taxes does one have to pay in the USA?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Given that the "link" is to a site that proclaims itself "An Internet Publication for Real Americans" I'm sure they have a rather interesting spin on things.

You need go no further than Section 1 of the Internal Revenue Code (itself part of the United States Code, as Title 26 USC)

[GePap]

yeah, let people try this and see how far they get. Not I, people.

[MichaeltheGreat]

The cute thing they miss is that just because the jury returned an acquittal on tax evasion charges, doesn't mean she doesn't owe the tax (and civil penalty assessments, statutory penalties and interest, which will more than double the total tax liability).

The jury has no more authority than to find on whether or not she committed the necessary elements of the statutory offenses charged.

She's still going to be subject to garnishments, attachments, levies, etc. until she gets her mind right. She just won't go to the slammer and pay additional fines.

[blackice]

http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/local_news/article/0,1426,MCA_437_2169609,00.html

A link to the local news, I ask the jury is out on that one, MichaeltheGreat. While she has this one under wraps, the question still remains. Do you have to pay taxes in the USofA?

It would seem no one can answer that question.
It would seem another court fight is on the horizon. She seems competent and determined to get an answer to that question, "where does it say she has to"

I guess equally important in this news is the fact not one major news source carried it... You really have to ask why.

[David Floyd]

Whoa! This is excellent news

[Sava]

Whoa! This is excellent news

take a cold shower floyd, the US isn't turning into your libertarian dreamland...

[Berzerker]

The IRS violates the 5th Amendment by requiring Americans to incriminate themselves by filing.

[David Floyd]

take a cold shower floyd, the US isn't turning into your libertarian dreamland...

But this jury decision does seem a step in the right direction

[Az]

If that's true, this is, ahem, very interesting.

[Az]

If that's true, this is, ahem, very interesting.

[Velociryx]

The Supreme Court has looked at the 16th amendment which supposedly authorizes the IRS to impose its tax on citizens....according to the high court, the 16th does not increase or extend the government's ability to tax (meaning that the only legal taxation is that which is done via apportionment....which the personal income tax fails).

Further, as I understand it, the Supreme Court has defined the word "income" in the 16th to mean "corporate profits"

IRS Tax CODE =! Law, does it? I mean, that's why it's called a code and not a law, right?

-=Vel=-

[Sava]

But this jury decision does seem a step in the right direction

If you think feudalism is a good form of government...

[The Templar]

Originally posted by David Floyd


But this jury decision does seem a step in the right direction

Sounds like jury nullification to me. Especially given that it occured in TN. 9 out of 12 of the jurors is probably hiding a still from those revenuers!