Israel halts gestures to PA pending action against terrorists

[The diplomat]

-----------------------
Israel will neither transfer to Palestinian control additional West Bank cities, nor release any more Palestinian prisoners, until the PA takes serious action against the terrorist infrastructure, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz agreed Wednesday.
------------------

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull%26cid=1060741314007

Time for the PA to meet their obligations if they really are serious about peace.

Stay strong, Israel!

[Odin]

To Sharon:





Say it is PM Abbas's fault as usual.

[JCG]

And here we go again...I wouldn't see this as a good thing, if the peace process breaks down due to the PA's reaction/lack of reaction.

Hopefully the PA actually cooperates some more now (and hopefully Israel will accept such cooperation and not go into making unrealistic demands, even if they might sound reasonable to their ears, like basically splitting the Palestinian's down the middle).

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by Odin
To Sharon:





Say it is PM Abbas's fault as usual.

Yes it is Abbas' fault. He is not fullfilling his obligations or promises.

You can't have a Peace Process when only one side meets its obligations.

[Odin]

Originally posted by The diplomat


Yes it is Abbas' fault. He is not fullfilling his obligations or promises.

You can't have a Peace Process when only one side meets its obligations.

He can't stop everything. That is like trying to force the police to stop a murders, it's not possible. There are too many extremist sypathizers.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Odin


He can't stop everything. That is like trying to force the police to stop a murders, it's not possible. There are too many extremist sypathizers.

He can certainly stop some things. He can certainly pressure Al Aqsa, and he could also destroy the tunnels used for smuggling in the parts of Gaza the PA now controls. Instead, he is not doing that, and the incitement levels on Palestinian television demonizing Israelis and encouraging suicide bombers has returned.

Apologists for Abbas keep on saying ot give him more time to build support. Except that after months, his support has dropped and he hasn't managed to do anything other than the hudna - which is a ceasefire in name only.

A leader doesn't become a good leader by waiting around for his poll numbers to go higher. He does so by making important decisions and, get this, leading. Abbas has done precious little of that. And so his poll numbers go down, his power gets wrestled out of his hands and the terrorist groups renew their strength making it harder for Abbas to ever dismantle them.

Abbas is making himself impotent and irrelevent.

[Sirotnikov]

He can't stop everything. That is like trying to force the police to stop a murders, it's not possible. There are too many extremist sypathizers.

You're acting as if Abbas is doing his best to do what he can.

Well infact he isn't. His almost entire shedule is devoted mostly to foreign affairs issues - ie convincing heads of state and people like you, that he can't stop everything, and therefore shouldn't be pushed to stop anything at all.

[Al'Kimiya]

The only way to peace is the Meir Kahane way.

[JohnT]

He can't stop everything. That is like trying to force the police to stop a murders, it's not possible. There are too many extremist sypathizers.

If random American tourists starting blowing themselves up in London, would the Brits be right in calling for GW to do something about it ,or should they just let him off the hook, saying "he can't control what some lone nuts do."? If they pressured Dubya, would you tell the Brits the same as above?

Just wondering...

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by Odin
He can't stop everything. That is like trying to force the police to stop a murders, it's not possible. There are too many extremist sypathizers.

So should the police not even try? Should we just disband all police since they can't stop every single little crime?

There are lots of things Abbas should be doing but isn't. He could destroy the tunnels used to smuggle weapons through the gaza Strip. He could arrest more known militants. He could remove anti-israel incitement in Pal schools.

The bottom line is the terrorist infrastructure must be dismantled before there can be a process towards a Palestinian State. Otherwise, all you do is create a terrorist State in the middle of Israel which would be disastrous for Israelis, disastrous for Palestinians, and disastrous for the entire ME.

[The Templar]

Originally posted by Al'Kimiya
The only way to peace is the Meir Kahane way.

Yeah, the "Meir Kahane way" certainly worked for Meir Kahane

And I hope nobody is holding their breath on the peace process.

[Defiant]

The only way out of this is Abbas is going to have to fight a civil war within the PA. If he is not willing to do this, everything they are trying to do for peace is a moot point. He is either in control or not, no grey area.

[The Templar]

Originally posted by Defiant
The only way out of this is Abbas is going to have to fight a civil war within the PA. If he is not willing to do this, everything they are trying to do for peace is a moot point. He is either in control or not, no grey area.

The only way out of this for Abbas is to retire and move.

[Defiant]

Templar,
What will that achieve? Or are you being sarcastic?

[The Templar]

Originally posted by Defiant
Templar,
What will that achieve? Or are you being sarcastic?

Sarcastic.

I fail to see what Abbas can do to solve the terroeist problem. He can move against the terrorists and likely be assassinated himself, he can do nothing and watch the same old bull**** continue, or he can go down the Arafat route and exacerbate the problems.