MSBlast.exe (virus)

[geeslaka]

Originally posted by JohnT


So, if somebody pours sugar in your gas tank, that is the fault of the manufacturer?

It is if there are 50 holes leading to your gas tank, each larger than the last and prefitted with a funnel.

[Asher]

Originally posted by geeslaka
It is if there are 50 holes leading to your gas tank, each larger than the last and prefitted with a funnel.

More like finding an obscure way when shaking the car violently at a certain angle, it can pop open your gas tank cover and you could then poor sugar in it.

And even then, what if the manufacturer fixes it free of charge a month earlier before someone attempts it?

[faded glory]

Quick Question. How many possible ports are there anyway?

[Harry Seldon]

In all or NetBios? NetBios has five: 135, 137-139 and SSL 445. In all there are 65536 ports.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by JohnT
So, if somebody pours sugar in your gas tank, that is the fault of the manufacturer?

You think that analogy is appropiate?

Really, John, if car makers make their products as crappy as MS software, there would be huge riots on the streets.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You think that analogy is appropiate?
Really, John, if car makers make their products as crappy as MS software, there would be huge riots on the streets.

Not really. All the rioters would be busy restarting their cars all the time, and would probably have dead batteries. The cars would so continually try to "help" them that they'd probably never manage to drive them even if they had sufficient juice-they'd be too busy trying to keep the radio from giving them advice. And they certainly couldn't carry a gun, crowbar or even a molotov in their cars, since said cars would instantly destroy any product not manufactured by Ford that entered their domain...

[mrmitchell]

Really, John, if car makers make their products as crappy as MS software, there would be huge riots on the streets.

Where's the riots?

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


You think that analogy is appropiate?

Really, John, if car makers make their products as crappy as MS software, there would be huge riots on the streets.

Yes, I do. It is irrelevant whether somebody purposely destroys a "quality" product or a "bad" product - pour sugar into a Porsche or a Ford Pinto, it doesn't matter which, and you're going to have seriously pissed off owners either way. The issue here is not the quality of the MS product, but the quality of the people who purposely destroy others work/info because they are mad at somebody else. You think it is ok take a bat to your Honda motorcycle because I happen to feel that Honda makes crap product? Is that what you kids now mean by "standing by your principles"?

Such a position strikes me as, at best, morally vacuous. Really, now... didn't your parents train you better than that?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Elok
Not really. All the rioters would be busy restarting their cars all the time, and would probably have dead batteries. The cars would so continually try to "help" them that they'd probably never manage to drive them even if they had sufficient juice-they'd be too busy trying to keep the radio from giving them advice. And they certainly couldn't carry a gun, crowbar or even a molotov in their cars, since said cars would instantly destroy any product not manufactured by Ford that entered their domain...

Did you copy that from somewhere? Good one though

[laurentius]

Yeah John, It's the MS bug and that stupid filipino teenager who wrote the worm that have ruined my last coulpe of days

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by JohnT
Yes, I do. It is irrelevant whether somebody purposely destroys a "quality" product or a "bad" product - pour sugar into a Porsche or a Ford Pinto, it doesn't matter which, and you're going to have seriously pissed off owners either way. The issue here is not the quality of the MS product, but the quality of the people who purposely destroy others work/info because they are mad at somebody else. You think it is ok take a bat to a Honda motorcycle because I happen to feel that Honda makes crap product?

I am surprised that you can miss the central issue so utterly.

The central issue is not about people who purposefully vandal, but about manufacters who sell people products without the testing and quality assurance that should go with consumer products. If your car stalls and dies when somebody hits it with a pea, what would you think?

Originally posted by JohnT
Such a position strikes me as, at best, morally vacuous. Really, now... didn't your parents train you better than that?

Personal attack eh? Talking about speaking out from both sides of your mouth.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I am surprised that you can miss the central issue so utterly.

The central issue is not about people who purposefully vandal, but about manufacters who sell people products without the testing and quality assurance that should go with consumer products. If your car stalls and dies when somebody hits it with a pea, what would you think?

Surely you know better than this.

Do you know how utterly impossible it is to test every possible scenerio for every line of a 40M line operating system, on every possible configuration of hardware?

You're lost in space, man.

And since when do "consumer products" demand perfection that you imply here?

And your pea analogy is just bad, a more proper analogy is if somebody clogs your exhaust pipe and it screws up, what would you think.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

I am surprised that you can miss the central issue so utterly.

The central issue is not about people who purposefully vandal, but about manufacters who sell people products without the testing and quality assurance that should go with consumer products. If your car stalls and dies when somebody hits it with a pea, what would you think?

And it is obvious that YOU are missing the central issue here - somebody is destroying other peoples property because of their anger at a third party. This is so blatant that I can't believe we're having this discussion - your argument boils down to "MS makes shabby products so it is OK to randomly destroy computers that use them."

My God.

Personal attack? Your position is offensive, so yeah, I took a walk on the wild side. Deal with it.

[Japher]

Let's say that you own a Dodge, and someone feels that Dodges are lame and decides to go around put sugar in all Dodge's gas tanks. Yet, Dodge finds out about this plan so the go around to all the Dodge's first and place a lockable gas cap on each of your dashes saying use this gas cap so that you won't get hit. However, because you are to lazy to do so you are hit by this vandal... Who's fault is it?

I say yours, they did everything to help prevent it, just that nobody listened.

[reds4ever]

I know I'm a bit behind, but is this the virus that Asher posted about a month or so ago? Or do I need to update again?