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My grandmother spent almost 20 years looking up our family tree, turns out I'm related to Charlemagne 
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In een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
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I'm related to Lewis and Clark. I'd like to start receiving those royalties from the states of the Louisiana Purchase area. (I'm too lazy to name them all.)"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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my wife's family claims to be descended from Rashi, the most prominent Jewish bible commentator of the middle ages (if not of all time). And of course tradition says that Rashi was a descendant of King David, so ......."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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I'm related to Ulysses S. Grant.Comment
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I know who Charlemagne was but not who Lewis and Clark were?
I also made a small mistake about my father's side. The royal family from which my great great grandmother run away from was Greek and had married Italian royals in the Ionian island. Formely they, along with others, had to escape from Athens, where they originated, because of some sort of prosecution and danger or because of poverty...? The reason is not clear and needs a bit of looking into. The boy, my great great grandfather was a Zakynthian..commoner I guess.
I also know that my grandfather's father from my mother's side had to escape from Constantinople because he run into some troubles with the law... Allegendly he was a big womanizer and a bit of a, well, underworld character I guess. He had 5 legitimate children, one was my grandfather and 8 illegitimate.
My father's grandmother hailed from Aigina, in the Aegean sea and practically owned the island untill her husband start selling off property. A very tall, haugthy person he was. I only saw him once or twice but I remember that.Comment
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Lewis and Clark were the leaders of an expedition to explore some land that the early US bought from France.American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
I try not to break the rules but merely to test their elasticity. -- Bill Veeck | Don't listed to the Linux Satanist, people. - St. Leo | If patching security holes was the top priority of any of us(no matter the OS), we'd do nothing else. - Me, in a tired and accidental attempt to draw fire from all three sides.
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XGalaga.Comment
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My family was dragged out of the Netherlands by William of Orange and spent the next few centuries wandering around the British Isles before settling down in England and Wales.Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
-Richard DawkinsComment
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You can't assume that -- I'm sure there are some black Americans who know bits and pieces of their family history before 1865.Originally posted by Albert Speer
mrmitchell:
yeah i figured that... white people lost all contact with the old country when they immigrated between the mid 19th century and the mid 20th (and they often changed names making **** harder)... black people obviously wouldn't know their family history before 1865... so makes senseA lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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He can assume anything he wants. Whether or not his assumptions are correct is an entirely different story.
American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
I try not to break the rules but merely to test their elasticity. -- Bill Veeck | Don't listed to the Linux Satanist, people. - St. Leo | If patching security holes was the top priority of any of us(no matter the OS), we'd do nothing else. - Me, in a tired and accidental attempt to draw fire from all three sides.
Posted with Mozilla Firebird running under Sawfish on a Slackware Linux install.:p
XGalaga.Comment
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thank you, geeslaka... i can assume whatever i want
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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Because we all know what assuming does...Comment
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In the late 14th century Italian crusaders attacked and siezed the central part of the greek penninsula and declared it the Catholic Duchy of Athens. It remained a fuedal duchy controlled by Catholic Italian Lords ruling over Orthodoxed Greek people until the Ottomans conquored the area. I also believe that the Island of Rhodes was conquored by the Knights of St. John (a Catholic Crusader organization) to be used as a drop off point for future crusades to retake the holy land. Those future crusades never happened but the Knights of St. John held the island against repeated Turkish attack until the 16th century when they were finally forced out and the King of Spain gave them the Island of Malta to use as their new home.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Church recordes were kept since the first settlers arrived in America but moving around was a problem for figuring out who was from where. Still, most people kept a family bible in which they wrote out their family tree. Most were pretty basic but some were very detailed with little biography paragraphs on each person. I know my mother's father's brother still has the official family bible with family tree going back to the 18th century. Also census recordes have been kept by all of the major colonial powers in America for tax purposes so geneologists can often use the census figures to learn about family histories.Originally posted by mrmitchell
Albert Speer, Europeans keep lots of family records...also, Europe was civilised for several hundred years. In America, it would be a lot harder to trace back to your great-great-grandfather because of lack of records, immigration, and simply moving around too much. European families were more likely to stay around for a while.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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The Ionian islands were under Italian control (then British briefly, then Greek) under most of the Ottoman Empire's rule over Greece. I've never heard of the "Catholic Duchy of Athens" though. I doubt it lasted very long?Comment
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Also I don't ever recall having a Catholic in the family. Quite the contrary actually.... I guess they converted to Orthodoxy pretty soon. (obligatory for orthodox/catholic marriages to take place)Comment
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