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  • #16
    Yeah, here's the big security hole - the public mailbox. I buy a stamp, stick it on a letter, and drop it in a public mailbox.

    Does this mean that they are going to eliminate mailboxes? Will I have to walk all the way to the post office to send in my bills? You can't show picture ID to a mailbox. (Or are they going to build "smart mailboxes" too

    Or are they just going to barcode your stamps? Thus creating a highly lucrative black market in stolen stamps?

    This whole idea is stupid.
    - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
    - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by elijah
      MtG: Would you differentiate between the discrete fact of a private correspondence from X to Y as being acceptable for info grabbing, but not the contents? I consider the message itself and its contents to be private, but thats open to argument, as am I on that position.
      If someone wants to "privately" correspond with someone else, better send it through a private courier, or deliver it. If it's sent through a postal service or common carrier, it is being looked at and handled by a lot of people, and I think it's a stretch to say that the addresses on the outside are subject to the same expectation of privacy as the contents sealed inside.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


        If someone wants to "privately" correspond with someone else, better send it through a private courier, or deliver it. If it's sent through a postal service or common carrier, it is being looked at and handled by a lot of people, and I think it's a stretch to say that the addresses on the outside are subject to the same expectation of privacy as the contents sealed inside.
        The contents of the correspondence are private. But the outside of the letter is visible... I think "smart stamps" would be a waste of money and highly unproductive in making us more secure, but it's not a violation of privacy.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #19
          MtG: Perhaps, I think I can go for that. Needless to say, if you want secure correspondance, you send them an email via a dud box with a hacked IP, encrypted as much as you possibly can, preferably with a one-time pad where you both have the key... perhaps as an entire digital novel with strange things done to it that wont be known to anyone...

          Damn I'm good!

          EDIT: or an even better key would be an entire CD!!
          Last edited by Whaleboy; August 12, 2003, 15:33.
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          • #20
            Does this mean I won't have to pay for a DC# anymore?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by KrazyHorse
              Does the USPS deliver on Saturdays as a regular thing?
              Yes.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #22
                If someone wants to "privately" correspond with someone else, better send it through a private courier, or deliver it. If it's sent through a postal service or common carrier, it is being looked at and handled by a lot of people, and I think it's a stretch to say that the addresses on the outside are subject to the same expectation of privacy as the contents sealed inside
                It's not that I have a total expectation of privacy. I just feel I should have an opportunity at privacy instead of having my business looked into. If I'm under suspicion then come get some; if not, do something about the crackheads at the end of my street.

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