What if the world was one big democratic communistic confederacy? Utopia or disaster

[Arrian]

It was an analogy. It wasn't about the car. It was about a promise that "you may have a range of choices" when in fact there were no choices. Same as "people can choose how much socialism they want" but "everyone has to have the same amount of wealth."

You clearly didn't get it.

-Arrian

[Sava]

There isn't a "one fits all" economic policy. To help decrease worldwide poverty, a diverse range of economic stategies must be studied and implemented strategically.

[johncmcleod]

OK fine. You can democratically change how socialist the big nation is, but to destroy and equal distribution of wealth you must have the votes of the rest of the world.

To help decrease worldwide poverty, a diverse range of economic stategies must be studied and implemented strategically.

Because of the system we have today, that won't happen. We will only do what's economically feasible for us. It is the capitalist way. Not unless we're one country and we're willing to work together.

[Arrian]

OK fine. You can democratically change how socialist the big nation is, but to destroy and equal distribution of wealth you must have the votes of the rest of the world.

So you're saying that the central government will have control of the economy, and in order to change economic/tax policy, you must convince the central government to do so.

Hence, not much regional autonomy (which, from the perspective of a world-wide communist state, is probably best in order to keep the state communist).

How much support would you need? A strict majority? Or more? If it's just 50.1% needed to change things, then I don't think communism would remain for long. But you could make it a 2/3 requirement.

Anyway, the basic point I was trying to make is that in order for communism and democracy to be compatible, the people living in the society (in this case, the Earth), must essentially agree that communism is the proper economic system. If they don't, the democratic process will result in a change of that system.

-Arrian

[rmsharpe]

Yes, we all know how well communist domination has worked before.

[Az]

it depends on the level of technology.

[johncmcleod]

It is possible to convince the world that worldwide communism is the solution. Just use rhetoric. If we get some great leader who will do this, and he was a great speaker, it could happen. Plus, the people who don't want communism because they don' want to lose their wealth (such as Americans and other wealthy people) only make up a small percentage of the world.

[MrFun]

I'll tell you what would happen -- people like Slowwhand and MTG would high-tail it to Mars.

[Arrian]

Plus, the people who don't want communism because they don' want to lose their wealth (such as Americans and other wealthy people) only make up a small percentage of the world.

I think there are more people out there (who may nor may not be rich at this moment) who favor capitalism in some form.

I'll tell you what would happen -- people like Slowwhand and MTG would high-tail it to Mars.

Actually, this is a serious problem that any communist state must face. What happens when some of your best 'n brightest want to leave? That can't happen with the current level of technology, but while we're speculating on the future, let's imagine that it was possible to pick up and leave, go to Mars (or somewhere else) and create/join a capitalist society.

Would you let 'em go, John?

-Arrian

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Arrian

Actually, this is a serious problem that any communist state must face. What happens when some of your best 'n brightest want to leave? That can't happen with the current level of technology, but while we're speculating on the future, let's imagine that it was possible to pick up and leave, go to Mars (or somewhere else) and create/join a capitalist society.

Would you let 'em go, John?

-Arrian

Best and brightest -- what this have to do with Slowwhand and MTG?

[Arrian]

You're so funny!

I shoulda seen that one coming, that's for sure.

Anyway, it wouldn't just be the best 'n brightest, I'm sure. It would include anyone who didn't buy into communist ideology (or rather anyone who thought leaving, for whatever reason, was better than staying).

-Arrian

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by st_swithin
Yeah, and what if Fozzy the bear, Kermit the frog, and Big Bird were the other 3 Apocolypse horsemen?

Man, it'd be a hot time in the old town.

Sometimes you scare me.

[Jack_www]

Most of these parts of the world were there is massive proverty suffer from civil war, corupt dictators and the after effect of collinization from Europe. THat is were a lot of the problem lies. Communism would just creat more opertunities for corupt officals to gain power and abuse the system to their benfits with no checks on their power. Then the whole entire world would live in proverty, and the situation would be ten times worse then it is now.