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[Defiant]

Mtg,
Where I live in central Wisconsin we have a tremendous amout of paper mills seems as though 1 in every city along the Wisconsin. They were Consolidated Mills and just recently werebought out by Storenzo. They own the land and log it. They are nice enough to let the public hunt it and I have to say some of that land damn near represents park like terrain from their logging practices. To my knowledge we havn't had any major fires on their land here.University of Wis, Stevens Point which is a huge educator of the DNR(Do Nothing Right) as us non-stump jumpers called their major, have said it was due to their logging practices.
Now I understand that a fair amount of terrain is not loggable for anybody but fair logging done by industry has to have its advantages on the environment but because of their sh!tty logging practices in the far past, the persona is they are all bad and only want to ruin the environment for a buck, I just don't believe those bad values or representations hold water anymore.

[Defiant]

9. Fiscal policy... Dean is a fiscal conservative... a departure from tax and spend policies that Democrats like, and the borrow and spend policies that Republicans like. Dean is very pragmatic in terms of economic policy... he's not blinded by economic ideologies like Dubya, and believes smart economic policies that create jobs and spur the economy, "rather than economy killing deficits and tax breaks to the rich."

Sorry Sava, you made it right here buddy.

[Sava]

You must hate your state Defiant. I've heard many people refer to Wisconsin as the "People's Republic of Wisconsin" because of their progressive social policies.

[Defiant]

Yes, Sava I have my problems with Kohl, Feingold and the teachers union but I am working towards making this a Republican state. It will take time.

[Sava]

9. Fiscal policy... Dean is a fiscal conservative... a departure from tax and spend policies that Democrats like, and the borrow and spend policies that Republicans like. Dean is very pragmatic in terms of economic policy... he's not blinded by economic ideologies like Dubya, and believes smart economic policies that create jobs and spur the economy, "rather than economy killing deficits and tax breaks to the rich."

Sorry Sava, you made it right here buddy.

Funny, I don't see an explanation about the makeup of the deficit. Perhaps you are visiting www.imaginary-apolyton.net/forums

[Sava]

Originally posted by Defiant
Yes, Sava I have my problems with Kohl, Feingold and the teachers union but I am working towards making this a Republican state. I will take time.

So you support the effort to destroy worker's rights as well as the quality of education in your state? Oh well, if that's the type of place you want to live in...

[Defiant]

"rather than economy killing deficits and tax breaks to the rich."

Economy Killing Deficits----what exactly did you mean by this if not about Bush's tax cuts which you say are economy killing deficits, you wrote it.

Yea I love the Universities here.
We have
University of Wisconsin----Madison, Milwaukee, Stevens Point, Green Bay, Superior, Platville, Eau Claire, La Crosse, Whitewater, Stout, and their extensions which are tremendously more. We don't need that many schools here cut them down to Superior, Point, Green bay, Madison and Milwaukee. You cover the state.
Do you see the overhead by so many schools and yes teachers and my state buck is paying for it. And what the professors make here is vey nice.
Don't get me started with Wic. problems, not the thread for it.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Azazel

++ Israel/Palestine: As Mid East analysts Ahmed Nassef and Stephen Zunes have pointed out, Dean's positions regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are very disappointing for those who seek a just and sustainable peace in the region.

I missed that one the first time 'round!

No spin there. None at all.

-Arrian

[monolith94]

The aim of the Howard Dean campaign seems twofold - to be liberal enough to win back those who were edging toward green and to be moderate enough to keep those who voted for Gore.

I think as a candidate he'll be more successful than Gore would be in 2004.

[Arrian]

Well, that's a ringing endorsement.

-Arrian

[orange]

Defiant

You crack me up man

Only you can prevent forrest fires

[Defiant]

Nice to hear from you again Orange, I wish Apolyton had a picture of a bare ass, mooning.

BTW, there is only one "r" in forest.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
This is kinda funny. I told Boris that Dean was more centrist than his lefty supporters think he is. Boris disagreed heavily and said he was a lefty.

What a blatant misrepresentation of that discussion. I was saying that Dean was more liberal than you were depicting him, and that he was more liberal than Kerrey in many regards (which this doesn't challenge).

The above items don't make him any more conservative than what I expected, especially the gun control section, which points out he is NOT the gun-totin' NRA-fan like some people depict him.

[Q Classic]

this is a problem.

i'm going to vote against bush, but i'm not sold on any democratic candidate, even dean.

and third party candidates thus far are all loons.

i've lost all respect for the green party since a faction was considering getting cynthia mckinney to represent them.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
this is a problem.

i'm going to vote against bush, but i'm not sold on any democratic candidate, even dean.

Write in Ming. Let's start the Apolyton Party!