Movie industry bombarding us with historic epics

[Bereta_Eder]

After watching the Hercules TV series, anything is possible!

In any case I think all of our 3 suggestions are way better than the ones they chose!!!

[Ned]

How about Casper Van Dien. He played a very convincing Marine captain in Under Heavy Fire.

[Al B. Sure!]

Azazel:

you do realize the descendents of the Phoenicians are the Palestinians and the Lebanese right?

[st_swithin]

Who's Casper? Is he a friendly ghost or an unfriendly ghost?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by st_swithin
Who's Casper? Is he a friendly ghost or an unfriendly ghost?

Friendly ghost -- he and Barney would make good pals.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Dissident
the Jews are protesting the Mel Gibson movie because it paints the jews in a bad light.

But they were responsible for Jesus being killed weren't they? Or were they just indirectly responsible?

I don't know **** about religion.

Some contemporary Jews may or may not have been responsible (no reliable documentation really exists). Jews in general are in no way responsible for anything that happenned before they were born. Duh.

[MrFun]

There are some Jews I guess, who think you're anti-Semitic if you acknowledge the historical fact that there were some people who were advocating Jesus' execution, who were Jewish.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by DanS


Actually, I think that many of his mercenaries were indeed dark-skinned african, or at least half-and-half.

Where did the numidians live at this time? I could never figure that out.

Numidia was in North Africa near Mauretania and Carthage.

Nubia was to the south of Aegyptus.

[DanS]

I have never confused the two.

[Al B. Sure!]

near Mauretania and Carthage? there's hundreds of miles of space between these two areas... a region called ALGERIA which is exactly where i said Numidia was...

[Boris Godunov]

Re Commodus:

He wasn't killed in the gladiator arena at all, he was strangled to death by an athlete named Narcissus in either his bed or his bath. It was one of many assassination plots against him orchestrated by the praetorian prefect Laetus.

Commodus had become such a megalomaniacal madman that everyone wanted him gone. He was far more interesting than the film depicted. If they had shown him as he was, he would have stolen the film.

Re Alexander:

Keeping in mind the concept of "homosexuality" didn't exist back then, we know that Alexander did have a same-sex relationship with Hephaestion, and this relationship was among his life's most critical and intimate. Yes, Alexander married and sired children, but Hephaestion was by all accounts his greatest love. If the film wishes to be accurate, it should depict it.

[Al B. Sure!]

Boris:

you're right about him being strangled but its easy to make the mistake that he died in the ring because one, he was killed by an athlete, and two, commodus was known to go down to gladiator arenas and fight with gladiators (in, i assume, fixed battles)

its weird how the crazy nut Commodus was the son of probably the most intelligent and philosophical of the emperors, marcus aurelius... i read something before though about how aurelius' wife was known to have affairs with gladiators though... is it possible that Commodus was actually the son of some unknown gladiator?

it similiar to how the Ottomon sultans before and including Suleiman were so capable and among the most abled monarchs in the world at the time and yet, nearly every sultan after Suleiman was a decadent sin-aholic with nearly no ruling abilities... and whats notable about this is that Suleiman's wife was known to have affairs...

as for alexander... the thing that i'm worried about is a mis-understanding of history that people will take from an Alexander movie that protrays him having a homosexual relationship... if it is not shown that most other greeks had similiar relationships, one would think that Alexander was notable in having a homosexual relationship (or that he was truly gay rather than bisexual if his wives are never shown) even though it was greek culture.

[st_swithin]

Barney and Smoochy...Smoochy and Barney...does anyone else see the resemblance?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
as for alexander... the thing that i'm worried about is a mis-understanding of history that people will take from an Alexander movie that protrays him having a homosexual relationship... if it is not shown that most other greeks had similiar relationships, one would think that Alexander was notable in having a homosexual relationship (or that he was truly gay rather than bisexual if his wives are never shown) even though it was greek culture.

Whether or not Alexander's relationship with Hephaestion was typical of the Greeks (and really, it wasn't) is pretty irrelevant, IMO. The film is meant to portray Alexander as he was, so it should show that. Considering the number of films made about him that have completely ignored this aspect of his life and made him a raging heterosexual lovebeast, I don't see why two films showing something closer to reality is a problem at all.

[Al B. Sure!]

Boris:

bah i'm probably argueing a point that don't matter at all... i just dont think Alexander should be portrayed as a homosexual which i got a feeling is how these movies are going to portray him... he would be better shown as a bisexual man much like most greek men.