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Well, what do you know? I knew that Apple could count on IBM to help them out.
Long live Apple!!!
Long live IBM!!!
Die Motorola, DIE!!!
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Well, what do you know? I knew that Apple could count on IBM to help them out.
Long live Apple!!!
Long live IBM!!!
Die Motorola, DIE!!!
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 -
2005/2006 eh? Looks like I'll wait a few years to graduate college and go for a G6. from a G4 to a G6, that'll be pretty sweet."mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
Drake Tungsten
"get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
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If you read that more carefully you will see that it says that "this is of unknown reliability" (referring to 2005/2006 release date). That could be a good thing or a bad thing.Originally posted by monolith94
2005/2006 eh? Looks like I'll wait a few years to graduate college and go for a G6. from a G4 to a G6, that'll be pretty sweet.
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17Comment
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By the way, by then I imagine that the G7 or G8 will be out.
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17Comment
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IBM's SOI process is a piece of ****: they already screwed over HP and Transmeta, now they are in the process of screwing AMD over. I think Intel is laughing its ass off.Comment
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DIE APPLE, DIE!Comment
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I see IBM is still playing catchup to Intel.
To be fair, Intel avoided SOI and is trying strained silicon instead, and it appears to be just as (in)effective as IBM's SOI. Intel's 90nm process shows almost no improvements in gate-leakage that the strained silicon should've provided.Originally posted by Lord Merciless
IBM's SOI process is a piece of ****: they already screwed over HP and Transmeta, now they are in the process of screwing AMD over. I think Intel is laughing its ass off.
Intel's keeping one step ahead of everyone in the market though, it seems to be their gameplan -- it's going to mass produce 90nm chips at nearly all its fab plants only a month after IBM/Apple launch their new 130nm chip.
And AMD's not slated to go to 90nm until half-way through 2004..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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These chips are all inferior to ball bearings.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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anything on the path to more advanced technology.B♭3Comment
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And for the record, this thread is pretty stupid -- all of the chip makers (even Motorola!) want 65nm chips and are heading there. And after that it'll be 45nm.
It's no news whatsoever that IBM says they want to go to 65nm chips...hell, back in January Intel announced it has already produced masks at 65nm and DRAM now as well has been produced.
IBM's kinda behind everyone still, but trying valiantly.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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And what comes after 45nm???"mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
Drake Tungsten
"get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
Albert SpeerComment
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35nm probably.
What's worth noting is that the current techniques for achieving those small processes is somewhat unable to do anything below 65nm. Intel's been looking into improvements now for years, and seems to have found it with a technology called Extreme Ultraviolet (EUV) lithography.
There's a cool, non-overly-technical page on this kind of stuff (future of processes) here: http://www.intel.com/labs/features/si02031.htm
Excerpt:
(0.13-micron = 130nm, for the non-ScientistsIntel has made major strides in the next generation process known as Extreme Ultraviolet (EUV) lithography. EUV lithography uses a series of mirrors to direct light with a wavelength of 13.4nm to print exceptionally small features below 45nm.
Making computer chips using EUV light may lead to microprocessors that are tens of times more powerful than today's most advanced chips, and memory chips with similar increases in storage capacity.
Still Working in a World Without Limits
Intel recently announced it has successfully fabricated EUV masks for the 32nm-node generation. Since EUV is a new technology, Intel is paralleling its in-house mask-making operations by developing the necessary supply chain with other companies. This cooperation helps ensure the tools, blanks, and other components needed for mask design and manufacture will be available when production starts.
EUV lithography is projected to take Intel at least four generations — nearly a decade — beyond its current 0.13-micron process generation. By recognizing masks as a key driver in advancing the future of silicon manufacturing, Intel continues to make the advances and investments necessary to keep them from being a barrier to extending Moore's Law. )
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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A major problem now with the continual shrinking of processes is heat dissipation. Each new generation is expontentially worse at "gate leakage", or wasted energy that eventaully just gets dumped off as heat.
It's a minor problem at 130nm, and it's a major one at 90nm. It's why Intel had to delay the upcoming upgrade to the Pentium M (130nm to 90nm), because heat dissipation went up from 24W to 30W. Which is a lot for a mobile processor. Current steppings of Prescott (90nm upgrade to the Pentium 4) are running at 100W, but Intel says it's going to lower that before release in October.
Silicon-on-Insulator (SOI) is what IBM tried to fix this with, and it didn't exactly work.
Strained Silicon is what Intel tried to fix this with, and it hasn't exactly worked (so far), but they haven't written it off yet -- 'cause 90nm is their first process with it and it's brand new still and is being tweaked."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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After 45nm, the "brickwall" approaches, and it's for real this time.Comment
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EUV may fix that."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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