Mini-nukes on US agenda

[Whaleboy]

Bunkers are better targets for conventional weapons, in case of error, less harm will be done. Also nukes are far, far more expensive.

Lets also not forget the political capital expended in detonating a bomb nearly 58 years after we last did that in anger.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by elijah


Lay off the neanderthals! They may have fallen off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down, but like every species we made extinct, they were fun while they lasted!

I guess most people see "terrorist bad, us good, nuke kills terrorists, nuke good".

Hey man, I'm going to have to change my avatar.

[Whaleboy]

Can you do that with less than 500 posts?

IMO, nukes in all incarnations are grossly inpractical weapons, except against aerial armadas and subs.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by elijah
Can you do that with less than 500 posts?

Yeah, if you choose one of the provided avatars.

I had the "Zarathustra" one you have, but you had it first.

So I chose Lady Deidre Skye because I had to stop playing AC because of her. That voice was pure erection material.

[Whaleboy]

I had the "Zarathustra" one you have, but you had it first

That was Zarathustra? I thought it was the Turin shroud!! I wrote an article ages ago called "Thus sobbed Zarathustra" about the death of postmodernism after 9/11 (the rise of neoconservatism etc)... I should have nicked the avatar for pretty pictures!

I want my Mr Potato Man I drew myself! However, I cant be bothered to get my post count up .

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by elijah
Bunkers are better targets for conventional weapons, in case of error, less harm will be done. Also nukes are far, far more expensive.

I fear, they might use the Argument, that they suspect NBC-Weapons stored within the bunker.
After all AFAIK those Nuclear Bunkerbusters are especially useful in those cases, as the Temperature the Weapons produces burns all Chemical and Biological Agents within the Bunker (at least in Theory )

But you can be right, if will take some time till the Box of Pandora is opened again. The big question is, how difficult it is this time to close it again.
After all those nuclear Bunbkerbusters won´t produce Pictures of destroyed Cities and the like (i.e. as long they don´t terribly fail, and detonate above the earth and perhaps level the whole neighbourhood).
So Public Opinion could shift from a "Don´t use these Weapons" to a "What matters, as long as they don´t detonate such things in my neighbourhood".

But yes, to make the first (and maybe also the second or third) step, to get the first mini-nuke detonated, will need a lot of convincing, but it could get easier with every weapoin detonated.

[Whaleboy]

I fear, they might use the Argument, that they suspect NBC-Weapons stored within the bunker

In which case, nukes are the last thing they need! Small very low ton nukes will merely send the stuff up into the air, larger nukes may vapourise it, but thats far from reliable, and collateral damage will be a problem. Chemical explosives are more reliable.

Also, most terrorist munitions of various types will not be stored in one place. The logical solution would be to store them in scattered, small locations, preferably in civilian areas. Obviously, nukes are neither a useful or acceptable solution there. To use that argument is demonstrating a fundamental lack of knowledge about their enemy, and what is Sun Tzao's first rule of war?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by elijah

That was Zarathustra? I thought it was the Turin shroud!! I wrote an article ages ago called "Thus sobbed Zarathustra" about the death of postmodernism after 9/11 (the rise of neoconservatism etc)... I should have nicked the avatar for pretty pictures!

Well It's actually from Alpha Centauri, I can't remember just what it is - an empath or something...

Looks like Mr Z though...

I want my Mr Potato Man I drew myself! However, I cant be bothered to get my post count up .

Neither can I.

[Whaleboy]

but it could get easier with every weapoin detonated

To a point, then people always get sick of war, and they will start wondering why their servicemen are emmitting a green glow!

[Odin]

I think Bush is just pandering to the millitary-industrial complex for $$$ in the 2004.

The Right-wingers who are in favor of this are the moral scum of the earth. They are dumb too because they are too stupid to know about the minimum mass for chain reaction thing.

[Whaleboy]

I think Bush is just pandering to the millitary-industrial complex for $$$ in the 2004

Indeed. I think I'm in love with Hillary Clinton

The Right-wingers who are in favor of this are the moral scum of the earth

Perhaps, but such a statement is moral absolutism which is a feature of much conservatism. We need to be liberal my friend!

[Boris Godunov]

So how is our aquiring more nukes which have a greater ability to be used in practical ways in any way going to deter, say, North Korea from attempting to acquire nukes of its own? Is this how we set an example, by sending the message that more nukes = good thing?

This isn't a good thing at all for nuclear non-proliferation.

[Whaleboy]

Boris: Its global leadership in one voice (PNAC) and world domination by force in... the same voice.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Odin
I think Bush is just pandering to the millitary-industrial complex for $$$ in the 2004.

He's just following a path blazed by Clinton.

[Odin]

Originally posted by elijah
Perhaps, but such a statement is moral absolutism which is a feature of much conservatism. We need to be liberal my friend!

I ment that I think they are the scum of the Earth, MY OPINION, I wasn't forcing it on anyone else.