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    I have always stated my belief that cheating on a SO is wrong ALWAYS ( cheating being any intimate contact with another without the consent of your partner). But a friend challenged me on this and started throwing out "what if?" scenarios

    The most difficult he raised involved situations of a wife or husband with an illness or condition that made intercourse impossible, left your partner with all their mental faculties and which would not kill them. Basically we are talking situations where staying faithful would mean 40 or 50 years of celibacy.

    I have another acquainatance that is is pretty much this situation. He has had a number of brief affairs that I know of and he says his wife " must know" but that he doesn't say anything directly as he doesn't want to hurt her. He avoids longer term affairs as he does not want to get "too emotionally involved" as he loves his wife. He does spend an awful lot of time caring for her .

    Thinking of his situation, I mainly admire his dedication to her. As much as I usually detest the deception involved in cheating, I can't even gather the mildest criticism of his actions. I guess, if he did not want to "cheat" he could have mentioned at some point that he would desire a sex life and seek her "consent" but that would seem such a hurtful reminder of what they had lost that I can't envision the conversation.

    While its an extreme and rare situation, I ALMOST have myself convinced that "cheating" in this situation is acceptable, if not the most "best" thing to do.

    What do you folks think ? Is cheating always cheating ? Or does it become acceptable in extreme situations? Would it be better to just leave them?
    18
    stay with them and remain faithful until the day they died.
    38.89%
    7
    Stay with them and tell them somehow that I would seek some outside relationships
    27.78%
    5
    Stay and form short outside relationships (secretly)-- Its still wrong but I am weak
    0.00%
    0
    Stay and form short relationships(secretly) and refuse to feel bad-- not telling is best
    11.11%
    2
    Begin a full fledged romance if one becomes available while caring for my partner
    0.00%
    0
    Dump my partner immediately-- I need my life
    22.22%
    4
    Banana and/or strawberry
    0.00%
    0
    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

  • #2
    Define SO.
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    • #3
      For better or worse, in sickness and in health.

      Kind of makes it a clear choice, doesn't it ?
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #4
        In this case it looks like he means Wife, Husband, lifetime partners without official legal recognition for whatever reason.
        Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
        Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
        We've got both kinds

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        • #5
          I see. Makes it different. I guess.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            Leave.
            Sex is a huge part of any real relationship and i wouldn't even try to make it work without it.
            What?

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            • #7
              SO would be anyone that it is pretty much understood you plan to be together forevever-- whether that is married, life partner whatever

              and Sloww - I took those same vows BUT I don't know if many people are strong enough to accept essentially a lifetime of celibacy--
              You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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              • #8
                It's only intercourse that isn't possible? So other forms of sexual contact are possible? Not sure I see the problem. If it's no sexual contact and it was me that was sick I'd tell my SO that I didn't mind if she needed to go elsewhere for that but I'd rather she was discreet and I probably wouldn't want to know about it.

                If it was her who was sick, it would depend how she felt about it.
                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                We've got both kinds

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                • #9
                  Well, is vagina that important? If you're married and love the other one, you can always go and spank the monkey. That's what you should do, if it doesn't work, then learn to do it properly.
                  In da butt.
                  "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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                  • #10
                    Stay and remain faithful.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MikeH
                      It's only intercourse that isn't possible? So other forms of sexual contact are possible? Not sure I see the problem. If it's no sexual contact and it was me that was sick I'd tell my SO that I didn't mind if she needed to go elsewhere for that but I'd rather she was discreet and I probably wouldn't want to know about it.

                      If it was her who was sick, it would depend how she felt about it.
                      In the poll question, consider it only intercourse that is not possible but tell me, does it change your answer if NO sexual intimacy is possible-- ( any number of degenerative diseases, paralysis. burn victim etc)
                      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        Stay and remain faithful.
                        She's looking over your shoulder, right ?
                        What?

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                        • #13
                          No, I'm unattached at the moment.

                          But if my future wife got hurt and couldn't have sex, the last thing I'd think about is leaving or screwing around.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #14
                            It depends... I don't think I can make such a decision without experiencing it.
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #15
                              Been married for 19 years , haven't cheated yet, don't plan on it.

                              If it came down to a physical need you could "handle it yourself". Any need to have sex with someone other then yourself or your lifepartner is selfish.

                              Sloww had it right in his first post. You are together no matter what.

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