Are ladies nights discriminatory against men?

[Dis]

Okay I was watching some local news in San Diego, and these bunch of guys get together and file lawsuits against clubs in the downtown district that have ladies nights. From the letter of the law, you are not allowed to discriminate based on race, creed, gender etc.

While in theory they are discriminatory, those ladies night serve a very important purpose. They bring in women . What guy want to go to a club with a small selection of women in them? Although I think maybe these guys who filed this lawsuit are gay That would explain alot.


Anyways, ladies night bring in more ladies, which in turn, brings in more guys. It's a win-win situation.

And how exactly is it discriminating? They still let the guys in, they just have to pay more.

[Makeo]

i just get my female friends to buy me my drinks. so its all good.

[Whaleboy]

What guy want to go to a club with a small selection of women in them?

A small selection of naked women??

Its stupid, stop pandering to political correctness!! , or in this case rather a political correctness against political correctness.

[Caligastia]

They are discriminatory against men, but it's their right to discriminate. I reckon you might be right about the guys bringing the lawsuit being gay. Why would any hetero male in their right mind be against girls getting in free?

[JohnT]

Methinks it's a backlash suit, a "We can't have our golf courses, you can't have your free drinks" sort of thing.

[Spiffor]

Ladies nights are a form of discrimination just like forcing black men to pay twice the regular price would be discrimination.

We agree the outcome is good (more women at the club ), but the method does suck.

[General Ludd]

I don't see how you could say it's discriminating to men when at the same time you acknowledge that it's purpose is to get more women there - for the the men.

[FrustratedPoet]

I don't see how they could be discriminatory.

1) The policy is as much geared to attracting men as it is to attracting women.
2) Men don't have to pay any more than they would usually do to attend the club. It's a bias towards women, not a bias against men.

[Alexander's Horse]

do i care about this..........

[Makeo]

no

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Okay, I'll grant from the start that the suit originates from guys with too much time on their hands and too little sense of what Ladies Night is for (my theory? Their Xboxes are broken). I'm just going to play Devil's Advocate here. The thing is, from a legal standpoint, the motive for Ladies Night doesn't matter. What matters is the outcome, which is a difference in the price for the same goods and services, based on the gender of the person purchasing the goods and services. So, here's the question:

If a downtown nightclub near you had a "whites night," during which white people got free admission to the club and cheaper drinks, would that be discriminatory? Because it's the same thing.

[rah]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
What matters is the outcome, which is a difference in the price for the same goods and services, based on the gender of the person purchasing the goods and services.

If that's the important aspect, then we must consider hair salons, dry cleaners, etc. where a women gets charged more for the same service provided to men.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If that's the important aspect, then we must consider hair salons, dry cleaners, etc. where a women gets charged more for the same service provided to men.

However at those places women's hair and clothes require more work, therefore the higher price. There is an important distinction.

Anyway, these are private clubs, and thus they may discriminate based on gender (just like women's or men's gyms may).

[Solly]

Yes of course it is discrimination.

So long as there is a consistent attitude to this I don't mind. Inconsistency (ie, in my local gym, a women's only section, but no men's only section) is what bothers me.

* the women's section will soon be converted..then everyone can use it. Due to low usage.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by rah
If that's the important aspect, then we must consider hair salons, dry cleaners, etc. where a women gets charged more for the same service provided to men.

Where I live, women definitely don't have the same service in hair salons. The service given to women is much more thorought than the ordinary service given to men. I find it somehow strange that the minimal service for women is not the same as for men though.