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**Alexander's Horse** · August 3, 2003, 01:36

I'm sorry you got mugged. Some of us are very proud of you.

**Worthingtons** · August 3, 2003, 01:37

Bad one that Comrade.

The Answer is not a Gun, as you said it woudnt have protected and could have only have lead to an escalated situation.

Be Vigilent, Dont dilly dally and walk with Intent making a point of being alert. Most of the time Muggers will want a sitting duck, not an alert,vigilant target who may be able to flee and is more likely to put up a fight.

**chequita guevara** · August 3, 2003, 01:38

Dude, seriously though, I sympathyze with you. I was outta my head when I was attacked. Put some ice on your face and keep it there. I know you want to talk but you should probably lie down and try to relax if you can.

Being attacked has changed me. I used to not have my guard up when walking or riding into my apartment complex at night. Now I get defensive and put my guard up anytime I see a poor looking person, especially one who is Black. It's nothing I think about, it just happens, cuz the garbage who attacked me were poor looking Black thugs. I know it was an aberation, but I got lucky. They could have had a knife, a gun, or a pipe. So now I'm scared. And I live in the ****ing boondocks.

**Boris Godunov** · August 3, 2003, 01:38

Originally posted by David Floyd
Or buy a gun - that would definitely be good.

I'd suggest not dispensing such advice unless you're familiar with the local conceal and carry laws. You could be getting him into jail time.

**David Floyd** · August 3, 2003, 01:38

Also remember to kick them in the groin. Hard.

**mrmitchell** · August 3, 2003, 01:38

Did you get a good description of them?

**David Floyd** · August 3, 2003, 01:39

I'd suggest not dispensing such advice unless you're familiar with the local conceal and carry laws. You could be getting him into jail time.

OK, fine. Let me qualify my position. I believe that carrying a concealed firearm will help to enhance your personal safety. I believe that in many areas, concealed firearms are illegal. Therefore, only get a concealed firearm if a)it's legal, or b)you don't care.

Happy?

**Al B. Sure!** · August 3, 2003, 01:39

David... like i said, the two guys had surprise and they knew what they were doing by grabbing me so my arms were locked to my side... i couldnt do ****...

mrmitchell:

it was only a couple blocks from my home... i can't walk through a different part of town... this is my ****ing part of town...

but yeah people have always said i look like a druggie. my fellow workers keep asking me if i do drugs cause i got chinky eyes and i look puerto rican and i wear the usual jeans and long white tees of all young males in philly.

but yeah i think concealed hand guns may be illegal in philly but there's so many ways to keep them concealed even when being searched... i got to keep that on the dl though...

but damn... dave, where can i get a handgun? and what kind of process do i have to go through to get one... i never had a criminal record or nothing so it should be simple right?

**chequita guevara** · August 3, 2003, 01:40

And it ain't the weed's fault you were attacked. You were attacked because they were people who didn't respect you and think that violence is an acceptable method of getting what they wanted. My attackers wanted my bike or my money. Should I hate money, bikes, and the low lifes who attacked me.

Get some ice on those wounds, NOW!

**David Floyd** · August 3, 2003, 01:42

but damn... dave, where can i get a handgun? and what kind of process do i have to go through to get one... i never had a criminal record or nothing so it should be simple right?

Damned if I know.

On second thought, I wouldn't recommend a handgun unless you can afford a nice one, as well as relevant handgun safety classes, and regular practice.

I would recommend realistic self defense classes - pinned arms aren't necessarily a problem.

**chequita guevara** · August 3, 2003, 01:42

Don't get a gun, Speer. Guns only make things worse.

**Al B. Sure!** · August 3, 2003, 01:44

chegitz, i live in inner city philly... how the **** can i be alert for poor black people?! everybody is ****ing poor black people! and damn i knew people who did little crimes like this and i never thought it would happen to me cause i'm around the way and **** but damn... ****ing *******s and i know i'll see them again walking down the street before i know it and what the **** can i do

**Worthingtons** · August 3, 2003, 01:46

Comrade Chegitz is right, you'll be thinking better in the Morning Speer.

It's a sad thing, but you just gotta be alert when walking late at night.

I know Derby isnt exactly a danger area but I am out late at night a lot alone on foot or cycle - I think walking fast with intent is the best way, as well of making your journey quicker too leading to a lower probability of attack.

**Alexander's Horse** · August 3, 2003, 01:47

Keep your head down, keep working and studying hard and hopefully soon you'll be able to get out of there permanently.

**David Floyd** · August 3, 2003, 01:48

It's also reasonable to maintain a safe distance from other people, in unsafe areas, especially at night. If you see someone approaching you, casually move away. Be constantly alert, looking around you, walking quickly and with confidence.

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