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  • #31


    Thank you, Fez, for showing me the light...
    Thank you, Fez, for showing me that the liberals were, as always, wrong...
    Thank you, Fez, for showing me that our economy IS rebounding...
    or, at least, if you say it enough, it makes it true...



    meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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    • #32
      The economy is picking up. I proved it with facts. Don't act immature in saying there is no economic rebound, as there is.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Fez
        Sava, what the hell do you know about economics. All that matters is the unemployment fell to 6.2%.
        Umm, apparently you don't know much about economics. The unemployment rate is based solely on jobless benefits claims. It falling being a good thing depends entirely on why it falls. If it falls because people are being hired, it's a good thing. If it falls because 500,000 people gave up looking for work, not being hired anywhere, that's a bad thing.

        The latter is what happened, so this is a bad thing. I think this is simple enough for you to understand. Keep in mind the economy lost 44,000 jobs net.
        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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        • #34
          Sava, what the hell do you know about economics. All that matters is the unemployment fell to 6.2%. I would go back to your textbooks.
          Actually, Sava does have a point. Discouraged workers are still unemployed, they just do not get counted. The situation hasn't improved, it was gotten worse, because these people have not had a job for so long, that they have stopped looking. If they thought there was light at the end of the tunnel, they would have continued looking.
          "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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          • #35
            Actually, Sava does have a point. Discouraged workers are still unemployed, they just do not get counted. The situation hasn't improved, it was gotten worse, because these people have not had a job for so long, that they have stopped looking. If they thought there was light at the end of the tunnel, they would have continued looking.
            Don't listen to them, Fez! They might subvert you to the evil unpatriotic Communist side! Who knows what evils they will use you for!

            meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Fez
              The economy is picking up. I proved it with facts. Don't act immature in saying there is no economic rebound, as there is.
              The economy isn't going anyware untill people have more money in thier pockets to spend and consumer confidence increases. You just ignore the posts on defense spending, so I know you are bullsh!ting (but BULL crap is comon is Spain so I'm not suprised. ).

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              • #37
                The drop and the causes of the drop were much less worse than expected. Whatever caused the fall was stemmed by good economic policies.

                Originally posted by Odin


                The economy isn't going anyware untill people have more money in thier pockets to spend and consumer confidence increases. You just ignore the posts on defense spending, so I know you are bullsh!ting (but BULL crap is comon is Spain so I'm not suprised. ).
                Actually they do. Real income level have been rising in modest amounts and consumer spending has increased. Consumer confidence is exactly that, just a inaccurate indicator. Can I ask you? Since when do communists or any leftists have any idea about how an economy is runned?
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mrmitchell


                  Don't listen to them, Fez! They might subvert you to the evil unpatriotic Communist side! Who knows what evils they will use you for!

                  The only thing the left has to offer is fear and **** ups.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #39
                    The economy is expanding facts show... expanding cautiously, nonetheless supporting my opinion.



                    NEW YORK –– Business activity in the manufacturing sector expanded in July for the first time in five months, a private research group reported Friday, the latest sign that the economy may be recovering.

                    The Institute for Supply Management reported that its manufacturing index stood at 51.8 in July, up from 49.8 in June. A reading below 50 indicates that manufacturing activity is slowing, and a reading above 50 indicates expansion.

                    Norbert J. Ore, who oversees the index for the ISM, said that the improvement in new orders at manufacturers was "very encouraging, and reinforces the possibility that the economy will continue to improve during the second half of the year."

                    The index is based on a survey of managers who buy raw materials in 20 industries.

                    Economists had been forecasting a reading of 52.0 in the index.

                    A closely watched component of the ISM's report, the new orders index, rose 4.4 percentage points to 56.6 percent in July. Ore called the surge in new orders "very positive for the sector."

                    Ore, who is also director of sourcing and procurement at Georgia-Pacific Corp., a major paper manufacturer, said that "overall, the manufacturing sector is trending very positively and appears poised to continue a pattern of growth in the second half of the year.

                    However, Ore cautioned that many respondents to the ISM's survey still did not see a revovery for their businesses. Many are still concerned by high costs for natural gas and oil. Overall, manufacturers faced higher prices for the 17th consecutive month.

                    Also, employment in the manufacturing sector continued to contract for the 34th consecutive month, in a sign of continued weakness.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fez


                      So according to you we should destroy those companies. You should be ashamed of yourself.
                      It's nice to know some corporations are making obscene amounts of money while millions of Americans still can't find a job.
                      You provide no evidence....you provide NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy those companies...you criminal
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                      Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Dissident
                        most of that is due to the war.

                        unless we go into another war soon, our economy will slide back down to normal.
                        well lucky us, we have an open ended war on terrorism that theoretically will never end!

                        that was bush senior's problem, his war ended. what a moron!
                        "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                        - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                        • #42
                          Sava, what the hell do you know about economics.
                          What smarter people have taught me.
                          You fortunately cannot complain about Bush's economic policies as they are helpful to the country.
                          You forget this isn't a Fascist police state like Spain, I can't complain about everything I"M AN AMERICAN BWAHAHAAHA.... and Bush's policies, like Reagans, are helping out the richest people while leaving everyone else behind.
                          The economy is picking up. I proved it with facts.
                          You used one piece of data and made an inaccurate interpretation... try again Fezzy...

                          Bush's economic policies are like his education plans... "faith based"...

                          Meaning you need to have faith in them because such supply side tactics aren't the right way to brnig about economic prosperity for ALL Americans.

                          But you should be all right Fez. Your dad works for Halliburton, right? D1ck Cheney is looking out for you.

                          So according to you we should destroy those companies.
                          Not at all. More power to them for doing well. Although I think it's immoral for them to be inflating the prices of commodities for profit while everyone else is stuck in a ****ty economy. But hey, I was born with a conscience, which is not good for business, apparantly.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sava
                            What smarter people have taught me.
                            I could say some words to describe you but I won't bring them up.

                            You forget this isn't a Fascist police state like Spain, I can't complain about everything I"M AN AMERICAN BWAHAHAAHA....
                            Last time I checked we had elections recently.

                            and Bush's policies, like Reagans, are helping out the richest people while leaving everyone else behind.
                            Wrong!





                            Source: CATO

                            You used one piece of data and made an inaccurate interpretation... try again Fezzy...
                            Actually wrong again.... I brought up not one, but a second piece of data that had to do with manufacturing.

                            Bush's economic policies are like his education plans... "faith based"...
                            Look at your own policies... we would be in a second epression right now if we listen to you.

                            Meaning you need to have faith in them because such supply side tactics aren't the right way to brnig about economic prosperity for ALL Americans.
                            Economic prosperity will come with Bush.

                            But you should be all right Fez. Your dad works for Halliburton, right? D1ck Cheney is looking out for you.
                            Idiot. My dad works for the United States Government. Second, the last time my dad worked for Haliburton was like in the 80s.

                            Not at all. More power to them for doing well. Although I think it's immoral for them to be inflating the prices of commodities for profit while everyone else is stuck in a ****ty economy. But hey, I was born with a conscience, which is not good for business, apparantly.
                            Business is business. And ****ty economy? What ****ty economy?
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #44
                              OMG PRETTY CHARTS AND ONE LINERS! LOL LOL!
                              "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                              - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                              • #45
                                You have shown us those 2 charts enough times already. CATO is a buch of supply-side BS. anyone who belives in reganomics is an idiot.

                                So once again Fezzie makes a fool out of himself.

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