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  • Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

    This is a simplified analysis of the subject; is it correct?

    China has a foreign trade with a positive balance.

    Chinese exporters billing in dollars receive dollars that they change against Yuans through the BoC at the fixed rate of 8.28 Yuans for 1 $. The BoC, once it has covered its need in cash $ and provided for the payments of foreign investments or reimbursement of previous loans, has now an assets with no yield. Then the BoC buys US bonds so that this asset will not be sterile. We remind that a few years ago, there was an epidemic amongst the central banks which were selling their gold in order to buy bonds instead; the BoC is on this line of though. It is not their buying of bonds which reinforce their currency; it is their positive trade balance.

    Now, lets assume that they accept to revaluate the Yuan by 20% (6.62Yuans for 1 $). The Chinese exporters billing in $ will quickly increase their prices in order to get the same amount of Yuans than before; this will causes a decrease in the volume of sales which will reduce the positive foreign trade balance, and the amount of dollars (converted in bonds) monthly accumulating in the coffers of the BoC. Correlatively, this effect will be partly offset by the decrease in price of imported goods billed in dollars. One step further, the reduction of the cost of imported goods will be partly reflected in the cost of exported goods then in their price in $, the increase of which being finally smaller than the revaluation. We see that a revaluation does not suffice to revert the trend of a currency to be reinforced by a consistent positive trade balance.

    There are two possibilities to stop the increasing stockpile of foreign currency held by the BoC : one is to make foreign investments (not bonds), but there is so much to do in China that we cannot imagine a foreign investment policy launched by the Chinese anytime soon; the other is to increase the imports either in machine, equipments and structural facilities or consumer products.

    Overall, it is easy to understand that the Chinese government is not in a hurry to modify anything to the current situation which lets open all possibilities.
    Statistical anomaly.
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      Re: Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

      Originally posted by DAVOUT
      It is not their buying of bonds which reinforce their currency; it is their positive trade balance.
      Their trade balance does strenghten their currency, but they devalue their currency by reinforcing the dollar.
      Originally posted by DAVOUT
      We see that a revaluation does not suffice to revert the trend of a currency to be reinforced by a consistent positive trade balance.
      There would still be a positive trade balance. It just wouldn't be as large. The BoC would still stock pile US bonds.
      Originally posted by DAVOUT
      There are two possibilities to stop the increasing stockpile of foreign currency held by the BoC : one is to make foreign investments (not bonds), but there is so much to do in China that we cannot imagine a foreign investment policy launched by the Chinese anytime soon; the other is to increase the imports either in machine, equipments and structural facilities or consumer products.
      Is your point that revaluing the Chinese currency will not slow the increase in their currency reserves?
      Originally posted by DAVOUT
      Overall, it is easy to understand that the Chinese government is not in a hurry to modify anything to the current situation which lets open all possibilities.
      No, but other nations have a great interest in getting them to revalue, especially the EU.
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        Re: Re: Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

        Originally posted by Kidicious

        Their trade balance does strenghten their currency, but they devalue their currency by reinforcing the dollar.

        There would still be a positive trade balance. It just wouldn't be as large. The BoC would still stock pile US bonds.

        Is your point that revaluing the Chinese currency will not slow the increase in their currency reserves?

        No, but other nations have a great interest in getting them to revalue, especially the EU.
        I dont see how buying bonds with dollars on hand could reinforce the $, and if it does I dont see how it weakens the Yuan which has a fixed rate of conversion.

        I am not advocating anything, I just wanted to understand why some are asking for the Yuan to revalue, and what would be the effects of a revaluation. Yes my point was that, anything remaining equal, a revaluation would not prevent the Yuan to keep reinforcing, and that China has no clear interest to do so right now.

        As for the EU, I am not sure that the trade between the EU and China is so big that it is a special problem; our exports are probably billed in $, and we are not in competion with them, but with ... the US on this market.
        Statistical anomaly.
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          Re: Re: Re: Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

          Originally posted by DAVOUT
          I dont see how buying bonds with dollars on hand could reinforce the $, and if it does I dont see how it weakens the Yuan which has a fixed rate of conversion..
          Chinese investment in the US goes hand in hand with their exportation of goods to the US. The BoC reinforces the dollar against the Yuan by buying dollars on the forex to peg the value of the Yuan to the dollar.
          Originally posted by DAVOUT
          I am not advocating anything, I just wanted to understand why some are asking for the Yuan to revalue, and what would be the effects of a revaluation.
          Because the current value of the Yuan makes it easy for them to export goods, and it makes it harder for other nations to export goods to them. I believe it is against WTO regulations too.
          Originally posted by DAVOUT
          Yes my point was that, anything remaining equal, a revaluation would not prevent the Yuan to keep reinforcing, and that China has no clear interest to do so right now.
          Correct. China does not want to revalue. They like to export.
          Originally posted by DAVOUT
          As for the EU, I am not sure that the trade between the EU and China is so big that it is a special problem; our exports are probably billed in $, and we are not in competion with them, but with ... the US on this market.
          I've heard otherwise. Your trade with China isn't as large as that of the trade between China and the US, but that could change if your currency keeps getting stronger compared to the dollar.
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            Re: Re: Re: Re: Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

            Originally posted by Kidicious

            Chinese investment in the US goes hand in hand with their exportation of goods to the US. The BoC reinforces the dollar against the Yuan by buying dollars on the forex to peg the value of the Yuan to the dollar.
            They buy dollars on the Forex? With what? You mean that they convert all their other currencies (Yen, Euro etc) into $?

            What are the Chinese investments in the US, except bonds?
            Statistical anomaly.
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              Re: Re: Re: Re: Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

              Originally posted by Kidicious
              Because the current value of the Yuan makes it easy for them to export goods, and it makes it harder for other nations to export goods to them. I believe it is against WTO regulations too.
              I don't think WTO has rules about exchange rates

              At any rate, If the RMB is freely exchangable, there would be a strong upward pressure on the exchange rates. However, since the RMB is pegged and not freely exchangable, there isn't much of a pressure right now.

              I have a general question though. What advantages and disadvantages are there to a pegged (probably to the USD) currency?
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                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

                Originally posted by Urban Ranger



                I have a general question though. What advantages and disadvantages are there to a pegged (probably to the USD) currency?
                Advantages :
                - eliminate speculation on your currency
                - with a foreign trade balance positive, it gives an almost perfect control on your currency

                Disadvantages :
                - with a foreign trade balance negative, accelerate the run to bankrupcy (see Argentina)
                - necessitates a strict control on foreign currencies movements
                Statistical anomaly.
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                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

                  Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                  I don't think WTO has rules about exchange rates
                  I think the rule is against the way the Chinese make currency trading illegal, but no one has petitioned it yet. True, there are no rules about devaluing or revaluing your currency.
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                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Consequences of a revaluation of the Yuan

                    Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                    I have a general question though. What advantages and disadvantages are there to a pegged (probably to the USD) currency?
                    If your currency is pegged to another currency it eliminates the risk of investment between the two countries. It encourages trade and investment between the two. Now that can turn against you if speculators run on your currency and force you to remove the peg. That's what happened in the Asian financial crisis. China was able to remain stable through it because of the regulations on trading their currency. Really they are able to keep their cake and eat it too for right now, but I don't think they will be able to do it indefinitely.
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                    • #11
                      Here's a new article on it from the Japan Times. Read there is an international coalition forming (including European nations) to convince China to remove the peg.

                      China under more pressure to revalue the yuan

                      China under more pressure to revalue the yuan

                      Japan, U.S. argue that unfairly low exchange rates are spreading deflation, trade deficits

                      Japan and the United States are stepping up calls on China to revalue the yuan, charging that while growing economically, it is spreading deflation and trade deficits by exporting goods at an unfairly low exchange rate.
                      But Beijing is showing no signs of yielding, and says Chinese exports do not have a decisive impact on world prices.

                      "No country in the world makes currency adjustment decisions based on the international situation alone without analyzing its domestic situation," Chinese Minister of Commerce Lu Fuyuan told the fifth Asia-Europe Meeting of Economic Ministers in Dalian last week.

                      At the ASEM Finance Ministers' gathering in Bali two weeks earlier, European countries agreed that the yuan's current exchange rate does not reflect the real strength of the Chinese economy. That suggests cheap Chinese goods are also flooding European countries.

                      China accounted for 19 percent of Japan's imports in June and 23 percent of the U.S. trade deficit in May, dragging down domestic prices in both countries.

                      Tokyo first called for a revaluation of the yuan, which is effectively pegged to the dollar.

                      In an article that appeared in a British newspaper in December, Haruhiko Kuroda, then vice finance minister for international affairs, said China is exporting deflation. Finance Minister Masajuro Shiokawa has agreed, saying Beijing must allow its currency to appreciate.

                      But many observers say Japan, unable to find an effective way to fight domestic deflation, has singled out China as its whipping boy.

                      Wu Chunhua, a senior analyst at Japan Research Institute, noted that imports from China account for only about 1 percent of Japan's gross domestic product.

                      "Can it be said that China is the root cause of deflation?" Wu asked.

                      "I don't buy the argument that China is moving prices in Japan," said R. Glenn Hubbard, former chairman of the U.S. presidential Council of Economic Advisers.

                      The situation is more or less the same in the United States.

                      U.S. manufacturers, hit hard by cheap Chinese imports such as clothing and home appliances, are calling on the administration to take measures to stem the inflow.

                      By criticizing China for creating "deflationary pressure," the administration believes it can obtain support from other countries without being viewed as protectionist.

                      "The 'China is a bad guy argument' is the administration's grand tactic to win the presidential election" next year, one economist said.

                      The situation on the Chinese side is also complicated.

                      Beijing can ill afford to revalue the yuan because that would not only slacken its export-led high economic growth but also make manifest the country's bad loans, estimated to account for as much as 20 percent of Chinese GDP.

                      This would force the government to streamline inefficient state-run corporations and deal with other economic problems, including a sharp rise in unemployment.

                      On the other hand, some Chinese business leaders are calling on the government to revalue the currency to lure foreign investment.

                      Under the circumstances, the Chinese government will revalue the yuan "gradually" beginning next year, said Chi Hung Kwan, a senior fellow at the Research Institute of Economy, Trade and Industry.

                      But if other countries intensify their pressure on Beijing, it would arouse opposition among Chinese people, making it difficult for the government to revalue the currency, Kwan added.

                      The Japan Times: July 31, 2003
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                      • #12
                        Maybe if the US is lucky, the revalued yuan will help the US export its deflation to China, thus helping us.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                          Maybe if the US is lucky, the revalued yuan will help the US export its deflation to China, thus helping us.
                          Could help avoid deflation or it could make things worse by hurting China.
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                          • #14
                            Very interesting. Two things :

                            - Just arrived on the world market, China is perturbating the game very cleverly. The world economy will have to adapt quickly to Chinese practices.

                            - It is quite difficult for the US to complain about the rate of exchange of the Yuan. If the dollar as it is currently valued is good for the US and the world, how can a Yuan strictly valued as the dollar be bad for the US and the world?
                            Statistical anomaly.
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                              Originally posted by DAVOUT
                              - It is quite difficult for the US to complain about the rate of exchange of the Yuan. If the dollar as it is currently valued is good for the US and the world, how can a Yuan strictly valued as the dollar be bad for the US and the world?
                              True. In general, fixed exchange rates are encouraged, because they encourage trade. And it's difficult for the Japanese also. They used undervalued Yen for a long time, and the Chinese are just following their example, but maybe doing it better.
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