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Read my post, Odin. You putz.
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Gerrymandering is a fact of American politics. That being said, hell no, we shouldn't accept it."The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
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Why is preventing gerrymandering cowardly? Oh, that is right you are anti-democratic like all republicans.
Or Democrats? Oh wait... gerrymandering by Democrats is alright by you, right?
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Originally posted by Victor Galis
Gerrymandering is a fact of American politics. That being said, hell no, we shouldn't accept it.
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The creationist debate is another thread.Originally posted by Odin
Speak for yourself, creationist.
Preventing gerrymandering is not cowardly. Running away instead of fighting it through political means, is.Why is preventing gerrymandering cowardly?
So you resort to silly partisan name calling.Oh, that is right you are anti-democratic like all republicans.
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Map grids wouldn't work really well. What should happen is a non-partisan commission should set them based on a previous set of existing objective criteria, including boundaries of other government subdivisions, consistent with prior court rulings, etc. L.A. is an example where you can't avoid having one city have multiple state or Federal districts, but otherwise, there should be an effort to avoid chopping cities or counties out into several districts such that the city or county electorate is a minority of each of the district's it's divided into.Originally posted by Oerdin
Both parties try to cheat with districts. They try to keep their supports all in one group and then cut the other guys supports into several different districts.
I wish we could have a none political emperical way of designating districts such as they must be as close ot a square shape as possible and they must be as densely populated as possible. If we could take the redistricting decisions away from the interested parties then we might just get a better democracy.
Rural and ag areas have different demographics and political interests than suburbs, etc. The goal should be to as much as objectively possible maximize representation of all voters, and equalize that representation.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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Preventing a vote is the only way to stop the gerrymandering.Originally posted by The diplomat
gerrymandering is not cowardly. Running away instead of fighting it through political means, is.
DUH!
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Running out of town isn't the answer.Originally posted by Odin
Preventing a vote is the only way to stop the gerrymandering.
DUH!
Heck, maybe the next time Republicans don't like a democrat bill, we should just run out of town to prevent a vote.
We can call it "pulling a democrat" on a bill.
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D'oh! I meant two wrongs don't make a right...it seems theYou are wrong 2 rights make a U -turn
cemented in your childish belief that I meant what I say. (A common mistake, however. Do not take it badly.)
Two wrongs don't make a rightWe can call it "pulling a democrat" on a bill.
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Everyone is surprised with politics as usual?A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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Ok, you have a point.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Fleeing the state is usual politics where you live?
But really, politicians will try every conceivable loophole if they see that it advances their vested interests.
But yeah, this loophole is not usual.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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What?Originally posted by MrFun
Everyone is surprised with politics as usual?
I wish the Dems in congress had the GUTS of these guys, the Dem congresspeople are spineless.
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Go Dems! I have little sympathy for the Democrats, especially the Texan ones, but it's nice to finally see some have grown backbones. Maybe we can stave off the transformation of Texas into a banana republic for a little while.
The GOP's redistricting plan was a total scam. DeLay's plan is so blatantly based out of undermining the democratic process that he didn't bother with any pretense of trying to achieve fairness. For instance, his plan partitions overwhelmingly Democratic Austin into four and ties them into nearby Republican districts to eliminate Austinite influence in the state and national governments. And a community on the Mexican border had been tied to one 300 miles away. Et c., etc. Furthermore, the Reps' actions are defying Texas House rules, which dictate that redistricing should occur only once every decade (the last redistricting was in 2000, right after the census). Then, of course, there's DeLay's totalitarian streak with regards to monitoring the dissident Dems through the Homeland Security Dept. and the FAA. It's nice to see some people with enough balls to stick up for democracy in this country.
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Wow, I didn't know it was THAT bad. If so, DeLay should be drawn and quartered.
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