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[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
But this is just the false equivalency I mentioned. You seem to be unable to grasp it.

The problem is you're unable to see through your own bias with your horrid analogies...

I claimed SNR ratios are not sufficient to determine a sound judgement on overall audio quality.

I claimed that fuel efficiency is not sufficient to determine a sound judgement of overall car quality.

This is why it's a ridiculous analogy:
Claim #1 is about a specific part of an audio player only, ie: audio output quality.
Claim #2 takes a claim about a specific part of a car (fuel efficiency of the engine) and applies it to the entire vehicle's quality.

I was speaking purely of audio quality when comparing SNR numbers, just like if you're speaking purely of fuel efficiency you'd compare MPG numbers.

I did not claim anything about MPG. That's your little insertion either intended to fudge the argument or because you didn't read mine.

I was correcting your analogy because you obviously find it too confusing to do it yourself.

Your analogy was rigged and didn't represent a parallel of our discussion. In fact, when you think it through and apply your analogy correctly, it proves my case.

SNR numbers -> imply audio quality.
MPG numbers -> imply fuel efficiency.

Now to use your example from the last thread, it'd be akin to you saying MPG numbers do not necessarily mean a car is more fuel efficient...which is a tad bit absurd, isn't it?

mutatis mutandis

Minus 10 points for pointless pompousness.

[Berzerker]

Agathon -

Nope. In my book State monopolies are acceptable to correct for market failures. I believe that puts me among most economists. Hardly radical thinking though, is it?

So your concern over monopolies is selective as I said, but funny how you want state monopolies to correct "market failures" but don't want the market to correct flawed state monopolies like gov't schools. Just imagine the drop in quality Ford would see if a law was passed requiring everyone wanting a new car to buy a Ford before buying the car they actually want.

However, if some way could be found of preventing market failures in education I'd change my mind. So far it hasn't happened and the results when we tried it were pretty bad.

Yeah, all those people sending their kids to Catholic and private schools (and home-schooling) because the gov't schools are so much better shows how bad the market is.