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  • #46
    Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
    Why would it verify your files every time you turn on the computer? That doesn't make sense. It only makes sense to validate a file when it is first played in iTunes.

    At any rate, I'll see what happens when I get to Japan. I'm pretty sure you're going to be completely wrong, as usual.
    I wouldn't be the one completely wrong -- after all, it's this woman who experienced it and Apple's Tech Support that told her why.

    I'm just saying there's no reason not to believe Apple Tech Support, Apple's own webpage, and this lady who is obviously quite upset about it.

    The Microsoft Database Daemon.
    Huh? No, it's not. What're you talking about?

    Provide a link, I'll respond to your nonsense when I return.
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    • #47
      Provide a link, I'll respond to your nonsense when I return.


      I'm not finding a link for you. I really don't give a **** if you believe me or not; I found the program and deleted it, so I know it exists.

      I noticed that some program was launching without permission at startup, slowing down my boot time. I finally tracked down the program with my "Process Viewer" utility. Caught "Microsoft Database Daemon" turned on and (presumably) sending information back to Redmond. Trashed the program and my system performance improved dramatically. Sounds like spyware to me.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by mrmitchell


        Panag, you look sleepy. Do you need some coffee or anything? (Or, considering time zones in Belgium Israel, do you need to go to bed?)

        hi ,

        its france for the moment , yes a cup of coffee would help

        have a nice weekend
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Asher

          I wouldn't be the one completely wrong -- after all, it's this woman who experienced it and Apple's Tech Support that told her why.

          I'm just saying there's no reason not to believe Apple Tech Support, Apple's own webpage, and this lady who is obviously quite upset about it.


          Huh? No, it's not. What're you talking about?

          Provide a link, I'll respond to your nonsense when I return.
          hi ,

          asher , just use a searchengine , ......

          panag gives asher the knowledge on how to use a searchengine , .......



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But it's a bogus claim. For example, only one song in its Top 100 Downloads section cost 79 cents; all the others had prices from 99 cents to $1.29. [...] <br /> <br /> Here's another example: BuyMusic.com sets strict limits on what you can do with the songs you buy. Most are bound to a single PC, so you're only allowed to listen on one computer, while every song you buy at iTMS can be played on up to three Macs. [...] <br /> <br /> I can't recommend BuyMusic.com to anyone on any platform. Mac users should avoid it. And Windows users will be better off waiting for iTunes for Windows, available later this year."<br /> <br /> from drmac </div> </div><!-- END: display_contenttype_threadview_header --> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_threadview_footer --><!-- BEGIN: conversation_posthistory --><!-- END: conversation_posthistory --> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_signature --> <div class="post-signature restore">Try my Lord of the Rings MAP out: <a href="http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42447" target="_blank">Lands of Middle Earth v2</a> NEWS: Now It's a flat map, optimized for Conquests<br /> <br /> The new iPod nano: <a href="http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/" target="_blank">nano</a></div> <!-- END: conversation_signature --> </div> </div> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_footer --> <div class="b-post__footer h-hide--on-preview h-clear h-padding-bottom-m h-margin-horiz-xl"> <div class="h-clearfix"> <hr class="b-divider b-divider--post-controls" /> <ul class="h-left js-post-info"> </ul> <ul 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</div> <div class="b-post__hide-when-deleted"> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_customfields --> <!-- END: display_contenttype_customfields --> <div class="OLD__post-content h-padding-vert-xl"> <div class="js-post__content-text restore h-wordwrap" itemprop="text"> I posted about this the other day. As usual Asher is selectively telling the truth - when he isn't lying that is. <br /> <br /> The DRM is not Apple's fault. That's what they managed to get out of the record companies who control the rights to the music. I'm sure Apple would have liked even less DRM, but it wasn't their call.<br /> <br /> Now for what Asher didn't tell you.<br /> <br /> Buymusic only allows you to keep your music on one (1) computer. It isn't clear yet, but it seems to be the case that when you get rid of that computer the music is permanently gone.<br /> <br /> The itunes store allows you to keep the music on up to three (3) computers. You can move your music to a new computer if you want and deauthorize the original one. Basically, it's yours for life.<br /> <br /> Buymusic.com restricts your right to burn to CD and transfer to portable players. The amount of times you can do this, or the amount of players differs depending on the record company.<br /> <br /> The itunes music store has one restriction. You cannot burn the same <i>playlist</i> more than 10 times. You can burn any particular song an infinite amount of times if you so wish. You can transfer your music to an unlimited number of ipods (or whatever other players install support for AAC).<br /> <br /> Easy choice really. </div> </div><!-- END: display_contenttype_threadview_header --> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_threadview_footer --><!-- BEGIN: conversation_posthistory --><!-- END: conversation_posthistory --> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_signature --> <div class="post-signature restore">Only feebs vote.</div> <!-- END: conversation_signature --> </div> </div> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_footer --> <div class="b-post__footer h-hide--on-preview h-clear h-padding-bottom-m h-margin-horiz-xl"> <div class="h-clearfix"> <hr class="b-divider b-divider--post-controls" /> <ul class="h-left js-post-info"> </ul> <ul class="h-margin-top-s h-right js-post-controls b-comp-menu-horizontal js-comp-menu-horizontal js-comp-menu--dropdown-on-xsmall b-comp-menu-dropdown--inactive" data-node-id="3172372" data-dropdown-icon-classes="b-icon b-icon__ellipsis" 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</div> <div class="b-post__hide-when-deleted"> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_customfields --> <!-- END: display_contenttype_customfields --> <div class="OLD__post-content h-padding-vert-xl"> <div class="js-post__content-text restore h-wordwrap" itemprop="text"> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> <span style="font-size:8px"> Originally posted by Agathon </span><br /> Now for what Asher didn't tell you.<br /> <br /> Buymusic only allows you to keep your music on one (1) computer. It isn't clear yet, but it seems to be the case that when you get rid of that computer the music is permanently gone. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote --><img src="https://apolyton.net/core/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" smilieid="7" class="inlineimg" /><br /> <div class="b-bbcode b-bbcode__url b-bbcode__url--preview"> <a href="http://www.buymusic.com/product.aspx?sku=200548023&loc=18250" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="urlimg_container"> <img class="js-img-fallback" src="https://apolyton.net/core/images/default/google-material/image_placeholder.svg"> </a> <div class="urlinfo"> <div class="title ellipsis"> <a href="http://www.buymusic.com/product.aspx?sku=200548023&loc=18250" target="_blank"> </a> </div> <div class="url ellipsis"> <a href="http://www.buymusic.com/product.aspx?sku=200548023&loc=18250" target="_blank"> http://www.buymusic.com/product.aspx?sku=200548023&loc=18250 </a> </div> <div class="meta"> </div> </div> </div><br /> And I quote:<br /> <div class="bbcode_container"><div class="bbcode_quote"><div class="quote_container"><div class="bbcode_quote_container"></div> Computers - 3 Transfers - unlimited Burns - 3 </div></div></div><br /> 3 != 1, no?<br /> <br /> And it's not gone when you remove the computer, WMA's DRM is transferrable.<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> Basically, it's yours for life. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->Provided you don't move to Canada.<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> Buymusic.com restricts your right to burn to CD and transfer to portable players. The amount of times you can do this, or the amount of players differs depending on the record company. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->True. For example, you can only burn MB20's songs to CD 3 times...but you only need to burn it once. <img src="https://apolyton.net/core/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" smilieid="4" class="inlineimg" /><br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> Easy choice really. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->Indeed, particularly when you blatantly bull**** and use facts and figures from other worlds. </div> </div><!-- END: display_contenttype_threadview_header --> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_threadview_footer --><!-- BEGIN: conversation_posthistory --><!-- END: conversation_posthistory --> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_signature --> <div class="post-signature restore">"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. 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</div> <div class="b-post__hide-when-deleted"> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_customfields --> <!-- END: display_contenttype_customfields --> <div class="OLD__post-content h-padding-vert-xl"> <div class="js-post__content-text restore h-wordwrap" itemprop="text"> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> <span style="font-size:8px"> Originally posted by Drake Tungsten </span><br /> I'm not finding a link for you. I really don't give a **** if you believe me or not; I found the program and deleted it, so I know it exists.<br /> <br /> I noticed that some program was launching without permission at startup, slowing down my boot time. I finally tracked down the program with my "Process Viewer" utility. Caught "Microsoft Database Daemon" turned on and (presumably) sending information back to Redmond. Trashed the program and my system performance improved dramatically. Sounds like spyware to me. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->This is complete bull****. <br /> <br /> There is absolutely <b>nothing</b> on google about this, nor does it make any sense for the Mac ports of the Jet DB to contain spyware.<br /> <br /> Why don't you try a different story, one that's more believable and perhaps backed up by facts? </div> </div><!-- END: display_contenttype_threadview_header --> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_threadview_footer --><!-- BEGIN: conversation_posthistory --><!-- END: conversation_posthistory --> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_signature --> <div class="post-signature restore">"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."<br /> Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. 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Unlimited players or a couple.<br /> <br /> No contest, numbnuts. </div> </div><!-- END: display_contenttype_threadview_header --> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_threadview_footer --><!-- BEGIN: conversation_posthistory --><!-- END: conversation_posthistory --> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_signature --> <div class="post-signature restore">Only feebs vote.</div> <!-- END: conversation_signature --> </div> </div> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_footer --> <div class="b-post__footer h-hide--on-preview h-clear h-padding-bottom-m h-margin-horiz-xl"> <div class="h-clearfix"> <hr class="b-divider b-divider--post-controls" /> <ul class="h-left js-post-info"> </ul> <ul class="h-margin-top-s h-right js-post-controls b-comp-menu-horizontal js-comp-menu-horizontal js-comp-menu--dropdown-on-xsmall b-comp-menu-dropdown--inactive" data-node-id="3172418" data-dropdown-icon-classes="b-icon b-icon__ellipsis" data-dropdown-content-classes="b-comp-menu-dropdown__content--right"> </ul> </div> </div> <!-- END: 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</div> <div class="b-post__hide-when-deleted"> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_customfields --> <!-- END: display_contenttype_customfields --> <div class="OLD__post-content h-padding-vert-xl"> <div class="js-post__content-text restore h-wordwrap" itemprop="text"> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> <span style="font-size:8px"> Originally posted by Agathon </span><br /> That's what Apple had to do, do get the low intensity DRM that they did.<br /> <br /> Wow, what's better unlimited burns or 3? Unlimited players or a couple.<br /> <br /> No contest, numbnuts. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->Did you read what I quoted?<br /> It has unlimited transfers to players. Why do you have so much trouble with such obvious things?<br /> <br /> And you only need to burn the thing once...then the protection is removed. CivPatriot even mentioned that this is common practice with the iTunes stores' users, to remove the DRM.<br /> <br /> Not that it matters to me, I've never burned an audio CD in my life.<br /> <br /> And something tells me the kind of people who download music online are doing it because they don't care for the CDs anyway.<br /> <br /> But your "unlimited players" idea is cool -- with BuyMusic's stuff, any WM9 player can play them, and any MP3 player that supports WM can play them.<br /> <br /> With iTunes, you're stuck with iTunes and the iPod.<br /> <br /> "Unlimited players" and "No contest, numbnuts" is correct... </div> </div><!-- END: display_contenttype_threadview_header --> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_threadview_footer --><!-- BEGIN: conversation_posthistory --><!-- END: conversation_posthistory --> <!-- BEGIN: conversation_signature --> <div class="post-signature restore">"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. 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</div> <div class="b-post__hide-when-deleted"> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_customfields --> <!-- END: display_contenttype_customfields --> <div class="OLD__post-content h-padding-vert-xl"> <div class="js-post__content-text restore h-wordwrap" itemprop="text"> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> <span style="font-size:8px"> Originally posted by Asher </span><br /> <br /> Did you read what I quoted?<br /> It has unlimited transfers to players. Why do you have so much trouble with such obvious things? </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->I can't use the link since I don't run Internet Exploiter for Windows. Actually I could spoof it, but I can't be bothered.<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> And you only need to burn the thing once...then the protection is removed. CivPatriot even mentioned that this is common practice with the iTunes stores' users, to remove the DRM. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->No. As far as I know it doesn't work like that. If you attempt to rip such a CD it will only work on an authorised computer. If you attempt to convert it to mp3 the quality is unacceptable. Of course you can get around the DRM if you want, but that's illegal.<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> Not that it matters to me, I've never burned an audio CD in my life. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->You aren't everyone.<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> And something tells me the kind of people who download music online are doing it because they don't care for the CDs anyway. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->Well, what if I want a copy in case my computer gets stolen? What if I want a copy for my car, or a copy for my office? What if I want to make mix CDs for parties. What if my wife and kids want their own copy? More importantly what if I want to send a CD of music to a friend I swap with (this is technically illegal, but the record companies turn a blind eye to it, because the people who do this are usually big customers and buy the discs anyway if they like what they've been sent). <br /> <br /> See.<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> But your "unlimited players" idea is cool -- with BuyMusic's stuff, any WM9 player can play them, and any MP3 player that supports WM can play them.<br /> <br /> With iTunes, you're stuck with iTunes and the iPod. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->itunes already supports a variety of players. It's up to their manufacturers to make them AAC compatible. I'm sure they will. <br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> "Unlimited players" and "No contest, numbnuts" is correct... </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->Nope. You are grasping at straws here. itunes DRM is simply better. 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</div> <div class="b-post__hide-when-deleted"> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_customfields --> <!-- END: display_contenttype_customfields --> <div class="OLD__post-content h-padding-vert-xl"> <div class="js-post__content-text restore h-wordwrap" itemprop="text"> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> <span style="font-size:8px"> Originally posted by Agathon </span><br /> I can't use the link since I don't run Internet Exploiter for Windows. Actually I could spoof it, but I can't be bothered. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->I quoted it on this site, for christ sake...<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> No. As far as I know it doesn't work like that. If you attempt to rip such a CD it will only work on an authorised computer. If you attempt to convert it to mp3 the quality is unacceptable. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->You are totally wrong -- audio CDs burned from your computers do not contain DRM. Once you burn them into standard CD-audio format, the DRM is gone. <br /> <br /> And why would you convert it to MP3? MP3 is obsolete. Personally I'd put it into WMA-lossless...<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> Well, what if I want a copy in case my computer gets stolen? What if I want a copy for my car, or a copy for my office? What if I want to make mix CDs for parties. What if my wife and kids want their own copy? More importantly what if I want to send a CD of music to a friend I swap with (this is technically illegal, but the record companies turn a blind eye to it, because the people who do this are usually big customers and buy the discs anyway if they like what they've been sent). <br /> <br /> See. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->All of the above are easily answered by the option: "portable mp3 player".<br /> <br /> And, again, the people who want CDs typically do not use things like the iTunes store for it. There's no sense in it -- CDs are still of higher quality, and if you want it on CD...buy it on CD.<br /> <br /> The kind of people who are more apt to buy from things like iTunes are portable MP3 player owners or people who only listen to music on their PC.<br /> <br /> As for burning all those CDs, why on earth would you need to burn more than 3 copies??<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> itunes already supports a variety of players. It's up to their manufacturers to make them AAC compatible. I'm sure they will. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote -->List the other players.<br /> <br /> <!-- BEGIN: bbcode_quote --><div class="bbcode_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote"> <div class="quote_container"> <div class="bbcode_quote_container b-icon b-icon__ldquo-l--gray"></div> Nope. You are grasping at straws here. itunes DRM is simply better. You are just trying to blame Apple for things that are beyond their control.<br /> <br /> Case closed. </div> </div> </div><!-- END: bbcode_quote --><img src="https://apolyton.net/core/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" smilieid="7" class="inlineimg" /><br /> You probably don't even understand how DRM works, let alone the specifics between Apple's kludgey AAC DRM and WMA's DRM.<br /> <br /> Unless you're talking about the licensing terms...and I disagree, I think having to use the iPod to listen to them on a player is unacceptable. 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</div> <div class="b-post__hide-when-deleted"> <!-- BEGIN: display_contenttype_customfields --> <!-- END: display_contenttype_customfields --> <div class="OLD__post-content h-padding-vert-xl"> <div class="axd axd_last-post"> <!-- BEGIN: ad_last-post --><!-- END: ad_last-post --> </div> <div class="js-post__content-text restore h-wordwrap" itemprop="text"> The DRM is removed when you burn as an audio cd or as an MP3 cd. its not trying to void the DRM its a fact of the way itunes is made. once you burn the DRM is gone. Its not just a common practice, most people do it with out knowing. 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