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  • #16
    Originally posted by KrazyHorse
    Junk food makers love them because they taste just like fats but legally they don't have to be listed as fats on the food label.


    Probably because you don't digest them, therefore they don't add to caloric intake.

    They should be listed, but separately from fats.
    I have heard of studies showing the transfats can be attacked by bacteria in the intestines causing it to break down into digestable fats.

    There is still the problem with a possible link to cancer as well. Though I question the study because most of the people who take part in these studies were junk food junkie who didn't eat fruits of veggies. I don't believe they have controlled all the other variables enough to say transfats are the ones causing the increase ion cancer.
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    • #17
      ...it is indeed worrying that they are allowed to put this crap into food...
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Provost Harrison
        They can be absorbed into the body but can't be utilised. They are dehydrogenated not hydrogenated...and here is a diagram to illustrate the point. Bear in mind that all enzymes work in a 'lock and key' manner - although in classical catalytic chemistry this isomerism will make very little difference, to an enzyme it is vital as it will not fit in the close fitting active site.
        Sorry you're right dehydrogenated. I have another question. Does the double carbon bond prevent the carbon atoms from roatating relative to each other the way a single carbon bond does or can they rotate (and those convert back to their privious structure) but at a much reduced speed?
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        • #19
          So they raise bad cholestorol, lower good cholestorol, but they make food last far longer?

          Well, some bad food is better than no food at all, I guess.

          EDIT: Eh ****, there I go losing the Smiley Challenge. (I could've edited it over and lied and no one would've known, but that wouldn't be fair would it?) Well, I went nearly 15 hours without one, at least.
          Last edited by mrmitchell; July 24, 2003, 16:09.
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          • #20
            There is still the problem with a possible link to cancer as well.
            There are a lot of interesting studies between different types of fat and their reactions to tumors.



            "Alza's other new technology uses liposomes—micron-sized droplets of artificial fat—as taxis to transport a drug through the bloodstream to a specific site in the body. Ordinarily the immune system would treat liposomes as foreign objects to be destroyed. So Alza camouflages the taxis with a polyethylene glycol coating in a patented process called Stealth, acquired when the company bought Sequus Pharmaceuticals in 1999.

            The only Stealth product to win FDA approval so far is Doxil, for treating ovarian cancer and AIDS-related Kaposi's sarcoma. Carried by the liposomes, the active ingredient, doxorubicin, circulates in the blood for up to several days until it encounters a tumor. The drug is then released from its protective carrier in a way that is still not completely understood. Either the liposomal membrane starts to leak of its own accord or enzymes in the tumor break it down. Alza scientists foresee using Stealth to transport a variety of compounds to their targets, especially anti-inflammatories and cancer drugs."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by gunkulator
              Trans fat is not required to be listed. This should change.
              I think they have just required tran-fat to be listed. I don't know when this goes into effect.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                A trans fatty acid is a form of unsaturated fatty acid that possesses stereoisomerism across one or more double bonds in it's hydrocarbon chain. As a crbon with a double bond forms a trigonal planar structure and pi bonding orbitals prevent rotation around the double-bonded carbon-carbon bond, the structure of the chain can be locked into two configurations...it can either be directly opposite on the corners of this C=C structure and be linear (trans) or be on the same side (cis) causing a kink in the structure of the fatty acid. Now enzymes are sensitive to this stereoisomerism and it makes the difference whether the cell can metabolise this chain or not.
                Couldn't say it better.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • #23
                  ooh! Im off to get rich! I'll talk to you guys after my open heart surgery!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Oerdin


                    Sorry you're right dehydrogenated. I have another question. Does the double carbon bond prevent the carbon atoms from roatating relative to each other the way a single carbon bond does or can they rotate (and those convert back to their privious structure) but at a much reduced speed?
                    Yes, the double bond results in two clouds of electrons above and below the plane of the structure which completely locks the bond in place so there is no rotation at all...it's a bit like having two boards sandwiching the bond and the carbons themselves...
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #25
                      Too late..
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #26
                        the pi-bond.

                        The year in college studying chemistry has paid off.
                        urgh.NSFW

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                        • #27
                          These are some of the best explanations I've ever seen.

                          Actually I believe the FDA is making it a requirement for companies to start putting how much trans fat they have on their packages.

                          Eliminating these things from your diet is the healthiest thing anyone could possibly due.

                          Great sources of fat are olive oil and flax oil, which your body utilizes very well to do all sorts of great things.

                          Think of flax oil and olive oil as putting motor oil into your engine.

                          Think of trans fats as putting hard, gritty SLUDGE into your engine.
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                          • #28
                            Trans fats are basically *lethal* to consumers — it's just a slow death. Anyway, avoid when possible. And they have to be listed on food labels by 2006, although some companies are starting to list them now (Doritos, for example).

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