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That second quote isn't any kind of a question Plato. In fact, Rah was backing you up. Your point is what?
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The whole thing is rather suspicious if you ask me. Something is just not right but I can't put my finger on it.signature not visible until patch comes out.Comment
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The timing, perhabs.
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I would guess that the troops on the ground did not know exactly who was in the building at the time of the incident... all they knew was that VIPs were in the building, not that it was Saddam's sons.
Probably when they found out, they started shooting in earnest.
As to why they had to die... they were the natural successors to Saddam. With them gone, he has no successor - so even if he isn't captured, his regime will die with him.
Had Saddam been killed/captured and his sons were not... much worse situation in my opinion.
Apparaently Baghdad isn't sad to see them go - so why should we be?Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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Re: Can anyone give me a satisfactory answer WHY we killed Udai and Kusai?
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I was responding to Vesayen actually.Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
That second quote isn't any kind of a question Plato. In fact, Rah was backing you up. Your point is what?
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Well I suppose what rah says makes sense. I guess they wouldn't choose a place that is easy to just circle around and all that. Besides, only reasonable other option would be gas the place. They wouldn't come out alive anyway, and in case they noticed theres gas, I suppose they had gasmasks anyway. And if not, they would have either killed themselves, or come out guns blazing. So maybe some kind of anesthetic gas could have been used, IF it was available there and all other things considered.. maybe sieging was not an option this time.In da butt.
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I have him on ignore, thus my confusion. My apologies.Originally posted by PLATO1003
I was responding to Vesayen actually.
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Why did we kill them? The answer is actually rather simple: They were evil and must be destroyed.
Plus it saves time rather than wasteing money on a trial. 
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Why did we kill them? - They were trying to kill us.
Continuing to try and capture them would of put more of our troops at risk, not reduce the risk as some morons in the media would have you believe.
We would of loved to hav put them on trial, but we are just as happy to kill the motherf'ers...
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I was wondering how long it would be before the Lima Delta's crawled out of the woodwork to whine about why we killed a couple of mass murderers, torturers and all around thugs who decided to hole up and fight it out.
Yes, we should have ****ed around for days or weeks and inspired their followers to go on a rampage of sniping us and little chicken**** attacks, just so some goddamned pansies don't get their panties in a bunch because we hurt the poor little dears.
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Well put MtG!
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Of course, we are occupying a country after fighting an aggressive war against the country (for the record, with little international support, not that I think that's all that relevant). So why shouldn't they snipe at US troops? I'm sure you'd do the same if someone was occupying the US.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Wait - isn´t there a way to blame France for it?BlahComment
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There could have been underground tunnels that would have allowed Uday and Qusay to escape. Also, the more time went by, the more likely Uday and Qusay could have destroyed any documents. If they had destroyed documents and committed suicide, then we would have had nothing.'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
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