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  • #16
    sky: He's a well respected maverick Republican columnist. He appears a lot on CNN.

    Well, not exactly the nicest thing that the Administration could do. I'm not sure if it is hypocracy, but rather just being basic ******.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #17
      He's a major conservative pundit, columnist for the Chicago Sun Times (IIRC) and cohost of CNN's crossfire. He's a journalist, not an operative.

      The point was that two senior administration officials spilled the beans to Novak, a journalist, about Wilson's wife, who is an active operative. If that isn't just a weeeee bit of a bad move, I don't know what is!
      Tutto nel mondo è burla

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Berzerker
        "worse hypocrites"? Hypocrisy is hypocrisy, the only distinction that can be made is how obvious it is, and that's more of an indictment of those who are less observant.

        There goes Odin again, now who will you accuse of being a criminal and what exactly do they want to destroy?
        You apparently didn't get the in my post, Berz. Both sides have hypocrites. For example, many Soviet leaders were hypocrites. the reason, I think, Communism hasn't worked yet is that those leaders (Stalin, Mao, Mugabe) were hypocritical, They claimed leadership for the good of the people but grew rich on the blood of others, That is why I like Democratic control by the workers themselves. the same goes with conservative leaders (Franco, Mussolini, etc.).

        *waits for Fez to come say how good Franco was*

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Odin
          Both sides have hypocrites.
          And thus, the conclusion of the thread.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MrFun


            And thus, the conclusion of the thread.
            HEY! It was just getting fun!!!

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            • #21
              The greater point, which was Templar's, is that the administration acted with schocking disregard for a CIA operative's cover.
              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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              • #22
                But what if she might vote dem. in the next election? Can't have that, now can we.
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                • #23
                  Odin -
                  You apparently didn't get the in my post, Berz.
                  There was no smilie in your first post, and your second post was in defense of your first. Also, the smilie in your second post came after a comment about a religion of hypocrisy which I ignored in my post.

                  Both sides have hypocrites. For example, many Soviet leaders were hypocrites. the reason, I think, Communism hasn't worked yet is that those leaders (Stalin, Mao, Mugabe) were hypocritical, They claimed leadership for the good of the people but grew rich on the blood of others, That is why I like Democratic control by the workers themselves. the same goes with conservative leaders (Franco, Mussolini, etc.).
                  A much more reasonable comment (I'm shocked ), but one that doesn't consider the fact that communism ignores human nature. What's the saying about the corrupting influence of power? Once these "workers" appoint people to represent them to increase the efficiency for making their desires known, you'll end up with an elite class with more power. That's the lie of communism - we the ruling elite only care about you the little people.

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                  • #24
                    commies are hypocrites

                    tell 'em berzerker
                    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • #25
                      Don't need to, you beat me to it.

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                      • #26
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Berzerker
                          [A much more reasonable comment (I'm shocked ), but one that doesn't consider the fact that communism ignores human nature. What's the saying about the corrupting influence of power? Once these "workers" appoint people to represent them to increase the efficiency for making their desires known, you'll end up with an elite class with more power. That's the lie of communism - we the ruling elite only care about you the little people.
                          The USSR did not have a system of checks and balances, so there was nothing the real comies could do to stem the rise of the Oligarchic Portiburo(sp?) even though the USSR techincally had a parliment, the lack of checks and balances let the elites squash democracy with the Police and Millitary. Remember that I am an Anarcho-Commie. My Idea of Government is similar to the one in the Sci-Fi novel Blue Mars, called Polyarchy, many rule, basicaly a very decenteralized Democratic Socialism.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ted Striker
                            commies are hypocrites

                            tell 'em berzerker
                            I was wondering when you would slither out from under your rock. Hmm, nothing to say on the Bushies blowing the cover of a CIA spook?

                            Why do you hate America so, Ted? Don't you support the spooks?

                            BTW, how are commies hypocrites? Oh wait, that was just more of your typical meaningless rhetorical flourish wasn't it?
                            - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                            - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                            - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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                            • #29
                              what are you talking about, i don't even know you loser
                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ted Striker
                                what are you talking about, i don't even know you loser
                                You should be proud, your reputation precedes you.

                                Now shut it!
                                - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                                - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                                - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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