The 9-11 Timeline: A collection of evidence...

[Q Classic]

Did Ann Coulter crack Q Cubed's account?

YOU TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111

[Odin]

I hope we get fuel-cell cars soon so we can tell the Saudis to f*ck it. we have to step around the real cause of 9-11 or else they will turn off the oil pumps to us, VERY FRUSTRATING!!!

[Kuciwalker]

Easier to wait for Russia to step up oil production...

Oh, and I'd bet on "supremely inept" rather than "supremely evil". OF COURSE the government is inept. It's the government

[Odin]

Originally posted by skywalker
OF COURSE the government is inept. It's the government.

Well said.

Viva La Revolucion.

[Kuciwalker]

Now the question is.... where is my chopper

[Odin]

Originally posted by skywalker
Now the question is.... where is my chopper

WTF? Has Fez taken over your log-in?

[DRoseDARs]

Odd, the ticking just got louder...

[Dis]

Originally posted by Lorizael


This is to all those that think Islam is the problem. Osama bin Laden would have hijacked whatever institution he needed to get the job done.

And I've read these timeline things before. Very frightening sometimes. I must echo Sava's statement that our government is either supremely inept or supremely evil. I don't like either one of those options.

You don't think islam is a problem? Do you think Bin Ladin could just stroll into a country such as Peru or Mexico and recruite suicide bombers.

I'm going to come right out and say it. I'm not some liberal who is acceptcing of all lifestyles and religions. **** religion. And **** Islam. Their religion is ****ed up, and has a tendency to produce suicide bombers.

Islam is a problem. Or more specifically, clerics and leaders who use the religion to fire up hatred. And don't talk about how christian fundamentalists are the same. They aren't the same. You don't think Eric Rudolph is actually religious do you? Although on the flip side Osama Bin Ladin probably isn't religious as well. But his followers are.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Dissident


You don't think islam is a problem? Do you think Bin Ladin could just stroll into a country such as Peru or Mexico and recruite suicide bombers.

I'm going to come right out and say it. I'm not some liberal who is acceptcing of all lifestyles and religions. **** religion. And **** Islam. Their religion is ****ed up, and has a tendency to produce suicide bombers.

Islam is a problem. Or more specifically, clerics and leaders who use the religion to fire up hatred. And don't talk about how christian fundamentalists are the same. They aren't the same. You don't think Eric Rudolph is actually religious do you? Although on the flip side Osama Bin Ladin probably isn't religious as well. But his followers are.

I think strict and formal institutions are the problem, and Islam happens to fit those criteria.

I'm not some liberal who is accepting of all lifestyles and religions either. I do think things can be wrong, but I also think that it is inappropriate to judge the whole based on the actions of a part of the whole. In my opinion, that should be a part of the judgment.

Osama could not have gone into any country, no, because not every country or nation has the the proper organizations to be taken advantage of. He used Islam as a tool.

But other religions have been used as well. The Pope used Catholicism, the Buddhists in... err... Taiwan? used Buddhism (if people think I'm wrong on this, don't flame me; correct me, because I know I'm thinking of something here, I just don't remember the specifics), Dubbaya is subtely using Christianity.

I think this is an inherent problem with all religions, that they can be abused in such a way. I see no reason to single out Islam.

Oh, and if you want to be specific for no particular reason and point out the use of suicide bombers, then you're gonna have to blame the Jews, not the Muslims. The first suicide bombers were Jews way back in Israel, in the early part of the twentieth century. They were responding to aggression from Muslims. (and before you say, oh well it was the Muslims, remember that it was you who made the point about suicide bombers, and remember also thast Muslims today respond to American aggression. we have conquered two states filled primarily with Muslims. for whatever reasons, we have)

And no his followers are not religious. The quote I displayed up there shows that.

[Dis]

I would disagree G.W. is using christianity. He is using americans patriotism after 9/11 though. That is another matter.

Although it does relate to this thread. Okay fess up. Who thinks G.W. knew about 9/11 and is using the aftermath of that to drum up support for his war on Iraq?

[Lorizael]

Okay yah, he's using patriotism as a tool. He's using American culture, as opposed to Osama, who used Muslim culture. Now, obviously, Osama bin Laden has done far worse things with the power, but its a similar tactic.

I don't know if he knew about it, but the fact that he's using it to support his actions now is very clear.

[Mr. President]

Who thinks G.W. knew about 9/11 and is using the aftermath of that to drum up support for his war on Iraq?

Roosevelt knew that Pearl Harbor was a target and did nothing to prevent it or alleviate the damage done. Once I admired him. Now I despise him.

It may be, and probably is, my imagination, but I had a perception that news about Afghanistan increased noticeably in volume in July and August of 2001 . . .

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Mr. President
Roosevelt knew that Pearl Harbor was a target and did nothing to prevent it or alleviate the damage done. Once I admired him. Now I despise him.

Didn't most of the Pacific Fleet leave the habour hours before the attack? Happy coincidence or something else?

(Note: I'm not stating my position on this matter, merely expanding on someone else's statement.)

It may be, and probably is, my imagination, but I had a perception that news about Afghanistan increased noticeably in volume in July and August of 2001 . . .

Hmmm...that's a good question. Might be possible to answer if I had the patience to compile info gathered through an Internet search. Someone else, perhaps.

[Mr. President]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs


Didn't most of the Pacific Fleet leave the habour hours before the attack? Happy coincidence or something else?

Hmm, possibly. I forget.

I was probably overstating anyway.

[mrmitchell]

And **** Islam. Their religion is ****ed up, and has a tendency to produce suicide bombers.

Ack, it's Jerry Fallwell!

I've been delaying reading the Koran, but I've been told by my liberal overlords that it is a good read and that suicide attacks are condemned in it. (Or something.)