David Kelly. How was his death the government's fault.

[Sava]

According to the NY Times, Kelly emailed them explaining he wasn't misquoted at all... and to beware of "many dark actors playing games". Perhaps you should have posted a picture of Blair there Boddykins.

[Cruddy]

Bodds, I read that article. You misread it, because no-one from the BBC is retracting anything.

Oh! Of course, they're a "biased left wing" media organisation anyway, according to you.

If that was the case, why would they put up a web page listing their criticism?

As for Gililigan being a liar - show me an Iraqi WMD capable of being launched in 45 minutes and I'll believe Campbell.

Until then, HE is the liar.

[GePap]

This whole thing is absurd.

The BBC reports that the gov. 'sexed up" the weapons Dossier by putting in the 45 minute bit, which in light of all current info, certainly was Sexing up, since it does not look like the iraqis had anything to get ready in 45 minutes, far less launch with. Where the BBC is at fault was for saying that Campbelll was the source: if he was not, that was a lie. But Campbell is not guiltless for his over the top campaing after that, and it wasn;t the BBC who kept putting pressure on Kelly, it was the government.

Campbell can eventually show he was not the one who "sexed up" the doggy dossier, but does anyone honestly (well, besides Bodd's, who is a lost cause) think that at the time it was made the "45 minute" bit was in any shape or fomr even a remotely credible claim to make? And to make the "centerpiece" of the document?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sava
According to the NY Times, Kelly emailed them explaining he wasn't misquoted at all... and to beware of "many dark actors playing games".

Dr Kelly told the MPs he did not recognise Mr Gilligan's reports and evidence to the committee as being from his conversations with the BBC correspondent.

He said: "It is not a factual record of my interaction with him, the character of it, which is actually difficult to discern from the account that is presented there."

He added later: "From the conversation I had with him, I do not see how he could make the authoritative statement he was making from the comments that I made."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3082007.stm

[Sava]

I agree with Cruddy. So DD, Bodd's... show me proof that Iraq had WMD capable of striking London, NY, or Washington in 45 minutes, then I'll consider your BS.

[Solly]

Thanks Dinodoc, yet..

BBC journalist Andrew Gilligan, the author of the report, added that Dr Kelly had not been "misquoted or misrepresented".

I suppose it's easy to lie about what someone said now that they are dead.

The BBC have more than the government to gain by "disappearing" Kelly.

[Sava]

I suppose it's easy to lie about what someone said now that they are dead.

... as you are proving so

[Solly]

The issue here Sava isn't even really about the 45 minute thing.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sava
I agree with Cruddy. So DD, Bodd's... show me proof

Why should I? I'm just showing that the BBC misquoted Kelly, something which you denied.

[S. Kroeze]

Originally posted by Boddington's
He said nothing against the government.

The BBC used him as their "source" and yet completely misquoted, misinterpreted, and distorted his story to fit their anti-war bias.

When the government committee questioned him, his story didn't tally with that of the BBC's report.

I am immensely pleased that 'someone' was present during the two conversations -with two independently operating journalists from the BBC- Dr. Kelly entered into about the use of British intelligence by the government!
And it is truly a relief that this 'someone' knows down to the last detail the origin of British intelligence and of ALL information provided by the Blair government.

I suppose you will testify before the independent committee that will investigate this sad affair.
I wonder why a committee is needed, since 'someone' seems to know already exactly what has happened...
Doubtless Saddams weapons will be found in the near future!

[Evil Knevil]

Liar
Killer (Of Iraqis).
One bullet.

[Solly]

"From the conversation I had with him, I do not see how he could make the authoritative statement he was making from the comments that I made."

Dr David Kelly.

This is what the issue is about.

[Sava]

Why should I?

If you ever want to rise above Fez status...

I'm just showing that the BBC misquoted Kelly, something which you denied.

I didn't deny, I just presented evidence to the contrary. My official position is that I don't know what to believe. But since you and Bodd's seem to think the BBC erred, I'm forced to disagree because you guys are generally off-base.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Boddington's
The issue here Sava isn't even really about the 45 minute thing.

Ity isn;t? Isn;t that why Cambel went full out against the BBC, parlimentary investigations called and so forth?

The BBC does not have to reveal sources. I already said that if they attributed to Campbell something Kelly said then THAT is the BBC's sin. How would have the BBC saying Kelly was the source have leesened pressure on Kelly? Then Campbel would have gone after Kelly (as he already had), since they can;t admit that the 45 minute claim, was well, absurd.

[Sava]

"From the conversation I had with him, I do not see how he could make the authoritative statement he was making from the comments that I made."

Dr David Kelly.

This is what the issue is about.

Unfortunately, there are two sources claiming to be presenting Kelly's words, that contradict each other. I don't know what to believe. I tend to support the BBC because they reported that Blair's claims of Iraq's WMD capabilities (45 minutes) was false. I agree with that. The UK government did "sex up" the intelligence just like the US. Why should I believe this next round of lies?