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  • #31
    But I thought they were trained professionals....
    urgh.NSFW

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    • #32
      US soldiers are whinier than IDF soldiers.

      Because they can afford to be. If and when the ISraelius send p[eople to di in Siberia we'll see how they react.
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
      Ultima Ratio Regum

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Azazel
        150K.. that's not too much.

        Fez: US soldiers are getting killed there daily. They're there for how long, 3 months? and there is already talk of a moral drop? wow.
        This talk of a moral drop seem like media overstatement to me.

        Israeli Soldiers have also been getting killed daily too.. in the height of the conflict.

        Trust me the US know there job better than the Israelis (Sorry) and they will complete it.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #34
          Morale drop isn;t media overstatement. US military has now threatende courtmarital for soldiers who criuticise their superiors in front of camera.
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

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          • #35
            They want to go home. I dont;'t blame them.
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #36
              Why should we? we excercise our world dominance through the control of the UN, global politics, and the commodites markets.

              Seriously, though. If the soldiers don't do it, what's the point of having a professional army anyway? "Bring the boys back home"? Lady, those "boys" are being paid to do what they're doing, not to sit on their collective asses in some military base in the US, and go home every night.
              urgh.NSFW

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              • #37
                Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                Morale drop isn;t media overstatement. US military has now threatende courtmarital for soldiers who criuticise their superiors in front of camera.
                Go take a nap you crazy drunkard.

                They signed up for a job and they will have to do it. They are damn professionals and have no right to criticize superiors. I hope they do get court martials.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #38
                  Getting US sldiers jilled is bad fgor business. You Israels might not appreaciate that since you have no respect for good, God-fearing American lives, but civilised countries don't want to see their soldires killed, even if they are bolunterrs,
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
                  Ultima Ratio Regum

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                  • #39
                    Re: You think Iraq is bad? Look at Chechnya...

                    Originally posted by DanS
                    But it must really suck to live in Russia and hear about 8 troops getting killed on Thursday in Chechnya, a speck of a province...

                    It's got to be demoralizing. Do the Russian defense forces not have as good of force protection methods as the American troops, or is it just that the Chechnyans are more skilled fighters than the current crop of dead enders in Iraq?
                    well you can apply an economic analysis of war (akin to economics of law)
                    two soldiers of 101st division cost more (in terms of training ) than those 8 Russians
                    alternatively, Iraq is flat as a pan.
                    in any case, this is more guerilla resistance than i have expected. arabs never fought properly in the field, but this really looks like a proper guerilla war.

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                    • #40

                      They signed up for a job and they will have to do it. They are damn professionals and have no right to criticize superiors. I hope they do get court martials.

                      Now now, Fez. they do have the right to think whatever they wanted. I agree with the general point, though.
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Azazel

                        They signed up for a job and they will have to do it. They are damn professionals and have no right to criticize superiors. I hope they do get court martials.

                        Now now, Fez. they do have the right to think whatever they wanted. I agree with the general point, though.
                        They can disagree but they should keep it to themselves and not bring it up the news in front a camera telling their names!

                        I think Morale is still high... but that is my opinion and I think the media is full of liars. I never trust it.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                          Getting US sldiers jilled is bad fgor business. You Israels might not appreaciate that since you have no respect for good, God-fearing American lives, but civilised countries don't want to see their soldires killed, even if they are bolunterrs,


                          First of all, they're NOT volounteers. they're paid professionals. Now I OBVIOUSLY can see why wouldn't they want to get killed, or even be there. Du-h!!!But that's their job. They signed for it....
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #43
                            WQhertehr or not the soldiers hae right to opinion the fact is that the DoD ahs had to threatesn punishment to shut the soldiers' mouths. That's not a good sign.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #44
                              I agree with that.
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                                WQhertehr or not the soldiers hae right to opinion the fact is that the DoD ahs had to threatesn punishment to shut the soldiers' mouths. That's not a good sign.
                                They are professionals and get paid for this. Damn it krazyhorse... it doesn't matter. There are several ethics in the military they must follow!
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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