You think Iraq is bad? Look at Chechnya...

[Serb]

Originally posted by Fez
Well I guess an non-profit, non-government organization is equipping those mercenaries with SAM missiles?

SAMs are not designed for surface targets such as buildings. They are designed for air targets by definition, you.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Serb

SAMs are not designed for surface targets such as buildings. They are designed for air targets by definition, you.

Yes for Hind Helicopters. Idiot.

[Az]

Originally posted by Fez
Actually that isn't correct. The Soviets wanted a fresh water port in Pakistan. They didn't give a **** about the Afghanis.

rright... So they wanted to attack Pakistan as well... ok. Thanks for clearing that up.


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[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Serb
It wasn't a short-sighted geo-political goal for Yanks. They tried to make Afghanistan the same trap for Soviets as Vietnam was for them and thus destroy the Soviets.

I love this. You know, I'm sure we intended it to become as big a pain in the ass as possible for the Soviets, but destroy them? Weaken, yes, embarrass, certainly, but to expect that the Soviets would be stupid enough to keep hanging on until there was nothing left? Anyone who suggested that would have been laughed right out of the think tanks.

Of course, you're doing the same thing again in Chechnya, and we're not even helping this time.

[Az]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk


I love this. You know, I'm sure we intended it to become as big a pain in the ass as possible for the Soviets, but destroy them? Weaken, yes, embarrass, certainly, but to expect that the Soviets would be stupid enough to keep hanging on until there was nothing left? Anyone who suggested that would have been laughed right out of the think tanks.

Of course, you're doing the same thing again in Chechnya, and we're not even helping this time.

you were still siding with the bad guy.

[The Mad Monk]

Oh, hush -- I'm trolling Serb, not you.

[Az]

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You know I am correct, don't you...

[The Mad Monk]

"There are no permanent friends, only permanent interests"

[Serb]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
I love this. You know, I'm sure we intended it to become as big a pain in the ass as possible for the Soviets, but destroy them? Weaken, yes, embarrass, certainly, but to expect that the Soviets would be stupid enough to keep hanging on until there was nothing left? Anyone who suggested that would have been laughed right out of the think tanks.

I meant that this plan to weaken Soviets via Afghan war was a part of a your bigger plan to destroy the Soviets. And it wasn't in any case a short-sighted geo-political goal for USA. Try to prove me wrong.

Of course, you're doing the same thing again in Chechnya, and we're not even helping this time.

You were helping for sure and perhaps still helping.

[Serb]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
"There are no permanent friends, only permanent interests"

An American can not be a freind. They have specific view of friendship (see above).

[Serb]

Originally posted by Fez
Actually that isn't correct. The Soviets wanted a fresh water port in Pakistan.

You are smoking a very cool sh!t, Fez.

They didn't give a **** about the Afghanis.

Yeah, and Yanks cared about Afghanis so much. An Afghanis were so gratefull to Yanks, so gratefull for what they done for people of Afghanistan... so they expressed their gratitude at Sept. 11.

[Az]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
"There are no permanent friends, only permanent interests"

then don't be so upset when people hate you...

[The Mad Monk]

All I'm saying is that you have to play the hand your'e dealt. You can't always say how things are going to look down the road, so you have to be prepared to alter your view.

[Az]

"Let's support a bunch of tribals and muslim extremists against a secular government. What could happen?"



You've sacrificed the welfare, and the developement of modern society in Afghanistan in order to achieve a geo-political gain. WTG....

[The Mad Monk]

Are you suggesting the Russians would have treated them better than they have, say, Chechnya?