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NK should get nothing more then an agreement that we won't invade them and that's it.
NK should get nothing more then an agreement that we won't invade them and that's it.
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Not gonna happen. They will not agree to verification proceedures, and they will (as before) cheat.So long as it is predicated on them scrapping their nuke program FOR REAL THIS TIME
Which is why I'm against giving them a single shiny penny.
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Then they don't really want a nonagression treaty. I don't think that is an unreasonable demand considering the boon they are asking for.Originally posted by Arrian
Not gonna happen. They will not agree to verification proceeduresI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Nonagression pact!!!! Are you crazy! It would just turn into another Isreal/Palestinian thing!
I say we demand that they stop making nuclear weapons. When they say 'no' we say 'eat lead hosehead'!
Naw, really, i have no idea what to do... flood the country with prozac... maybe kim will eat a couple and snap out of it.
I still think the are mad that they were the bad guys in the last Bond flick...
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It was my understanding that the South could defeat the North even without the Americans. Anyway, let's hope that Kim has a stroke.Comment
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The South probably would beat the North. But not before the North did a ton of damage to the South.
And then, once the South had won, it would face the cost of rebuilding/integrating the North.
Accordingly, faced with the possibility of a nasty, destructive war, SK chose the "Sunshine Policy." I personally think it's appeasement and a huge mistake, but I can understand why they chose it.
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Whither or not the south could defeat the north depends on what the north's Chinese allies do.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Well, yeah, and upon what the South's US allies do...
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The South and the Chinese could probably reach a deal, something along the lines of China not interfering, and the South agreeing to remove American bases. Longer term, it would be of great benefit to China to get rid of an embarassing parasite, and gain a reasonably dynamic trading partner.Comment
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and the South agreeing to remove American bases
Why on Earth would the South agree to that?
China doesn't have much problem with North Korea nowadays. Unfortunately, South Korea is too weak-willed to assert its interests with regard to North Korea with the Chinese.Last edited by DanS; July 23, 2003, 15:55.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by DanS
China doesn't have much problem with North Korea nowadays. Unfortunately, South Korea is too weak-willed to assert its interests with regard to North Korea with the Chinese.
Maybe becuase it is their capital and the lives of milions of their citizens that lie down the barrel of 10,000 NK artillery pieces?If you don't like reality, change it! me
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SK could demand that China put pressure on NK to stand down along the border. But it hasn't. Why?
SK does a lot more business with China than does NK.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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They don't demand because:Originally posted by DanS
SK could demand that China put pressure on NK to stand down along the border. But it hasn't. Why?
SK does a lot more business with China than does NK.
1. They can't/won't/would have a really tough time enforce such a demand.
2. The status quo is acceptable and they feels security that if things go to ****, someone else will bail them out.
3. They prefer not to have economic issues from reuninion with the North.
4. They beleive that a pure policy of talk and engagement is more beneficial than direct, enforced negotiation. They beleive in "process".Comment
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Are they Finlandized?Originally posted by GePap
Maybe becuase it is their capital and the lives of milions of their citizens that lie down the barrel of 10,000 NK artillery pieces?Comment
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What do we get out of a non-aggression pact?Comment
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