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[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kidicious
When you take from me and I already have less, that's tyranny. If you have more and I take ...

I'd still have less.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
No. If you want more, go out and work for it, just like I did. If you can't be arsed to, then don't come take mine just because of that. That's called STEALING.

-=Vel=-

I've probably worked 10 times as hard as you. For all I know you got your money scamming little old ladies for their Social Security check.

[Velociryx]

Doesn't matter, DD....you're a capitalist pigdog. Your part of the equation is to be taken from. Beyond that, you don't count!

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I'd still have less.

Sure. Just like if I do all the work and you get profit from my labor that's fair trade.

[Velociryx]

And you'll prolly hear it ten more times if our discussion continues along these lines. I WORK for my money. Lots of folks do. In fact, the vast majority of people in this country do.

ANY scheme you put in motion to come take from the aforementioned workin' folks just to make yourself a little better off is....big surprise coming here....going to be greeted with hostility! Shocking, I know, but true!

The remedy is exactly what I've been saying all along. Want more? Earn it. Come try to take mine, I'll greet you at the door, gun-in-hand....

People are not equal. Outcomes aren't equal. It's the way the world works. In this country, we try to ensure that everybody has opportunities, however. We could do better in that regard, and we will improve. But people will never be equal. Nor will outcomes. That's a pipe dream.

-=Vel=-

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Just like if I do all the work and you get profit from my labor that's fair trade.

Don't work then if you feel that you get paid enough.

[Velociryx]

Amen, DD....but of course, he's got a worn-out comeback for that....stay tuned...:yawn:

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Don't work then if you feel that you get paid enough.

You might have that option if you own enough property, but not me.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
And you'll prolly hear it ten more times if our discussion continues along these lines. I WORK for my money. Lots of folks do. In fact, the vast majority of people in this country do.

Then you aren't rich. Rich people don't work for their money. They exploit people for it.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kidicious
You might have that option if you own enough property, but not me.

Then get a better job. Whining over your pay annoys only serves to annoy people.

[Velociryx]

Yes...by creating jobs that those poor exploited people would otherwise not have had. Those B@startd!

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Then get a better job. Whining over your pay annoys only serves to annoy people.

I don't even have a job right now jerk. Get a reality check.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Yes...by creating jobs that those poor exploited people would otherwise not have had. Those B@startd!

-=Vel=-

I know a better way.

[Velociryx]

I'm sure you think you do. Come in, guns blazing, leaving a trail of capitalist pigdogs dead or freezing to death in your own little disneyland gulag. Take, take, take until you have destroyed a vast portion of the wealth in this country and re-distributed the rest to your buddies.

I think I'll pass tho....

-=Vel=-

[Kramerman]

Im more talented than a lot of people, at a lot of things. A lot of people are more talented than me at a lot of things. I work harder than most people. A lot of people work harder than me.

Here is the equation of our society, and i like it

(Work)*(Talent) + luck = Money

If you have a lot of talent in something, but put in zero work into benefiting from it, you get zero dollars (unless your really lucky and something falls in your lap). If you dont have a lot of talent, but work really, really hard at it, then you should make a lot of money, and vice versa if you have a lot of talent but dont work too hard. Some of the most successful people in our society not only have a lot of talent, but have worked very hard with it and had a lot of luck (being at the right place at the right time, etc).

Every person with determination can make it to a comfortable life in our society, im living proof of that ( i dont wanna get into my life story...). And its my belief, tho some over all are more talented than others, evryone has some natural ability in something (except heavily retarded people or other disadvanteged people, who we DO(!) help thru social institutions) and can be quite successful if they work at it. And some people can be very successful at things they have no natrual talent, in, by sheer hard work.

Gotta do lundry, more on this later

Kman