Uggh! Government Intervention...

[Sava]

Just say NO!

Stay in school!

Buckle your safety belt!

Slip slap slop!

DUCK AND COVER!

[mrmitchell]

Duct and Plastic!

[st_swithin]

Nice ones

Oh yeah, and

Keep America 'Beautiful'!

[David Floyd]

Just a quick, perhaps irrelevant point - laws against children driving vehicles can't and don't apply on private property.

[Kuciwalker]

They don't?

They can't?

[David Floyd]

How could a driving age law apply out on someone's ranch, for example?

[Kuciwalker]

Why wouldn't it?

[David Floyd]

Because the cops can't come onto your private property without your permission unless THEY KNOW a crime is being committed.

Thus, for all practical purposes, the law doesn't apply.

Same with underage drinking/drugs if done in your own home. The law doesn't apply to you, realistically speaking, unless you are doing something wrong at the same time that would attract attention.

So my point is this: Even IF the law *technically* applies, it's unenforceable, and I would imagine the same is true re: farm equipment.

[Kuciwalker]

Floyd, reality check:

a) unless you have REALLY BIG property, they can kinda SEE you driving around in your yard

b) they can go onto your property if they even suspect a crime is being commited. They run raids on big parties (of adolescents).

[David Floyd]

a) unless you have REALLY BIG property, they can kinda SEE you driving around in your yard

But the question is about farms, not quarter acre yards.

b) they can go onto your property if they even suspect a crime is being commited. They run raids on big parties (of adolescents).

Sure, but I'm talking about if I want to smoke pot, or drink beer, or whatever, in my apartment, I'm not going to have trouble. The cops can't come in my place unless I'm drawing attention to myself. Even if a cop comes to my door and says he wants to search for beer, I can tell him to **** off until he gets a warrant, by which time I can dispose of anything illegal. For all intents and purposes the police can't do **** about non-coercive "crimes" committed in my own home.

[Kuciwalker]

So they drive up to the farm. They don't have to leave until you tell them too, essentially.

Plus, you forgot this is Canada, so the rules may be somewhat different.

[David Floyd]

So they drive up to the farm. They don't have to leave until you tell them too, essentially.

Great, but they can't drive onto the farm. If they want to waste their time sitting two feet outside the property, that's fine by me, but they can't come in just because they see someone they think is kinda small operating a tractor a quarter mile away.

[Kramerman]

where im from the cops could care less if a 13 year old is driving his dads truck on a rural county road, as long as he is driving safely. and when i was 14 i drove my friends jeep all over his ranch. it may be technically illegal, even i private property, i dont know, but the cops dont enforce it, because they let their own kids do it and they probably did as kids too

[Kuciwalker]

If you don't want them to, tell them not to. So they can drive up, and by the time you tell them not to, they would know.

[David Floyd]

Sure, but it wouldn't be info gained legally - ie, they couldn't prosecute for it. Most farms have some sort of gate in the front, and the cops can't just push the gate aside.

Even if there is no gate, the police can't just go driving all over your farm. If they drive up TO THE HOUSE, ON THE DRIVEWAY, and they HAPPEN to see an obvious kid close up operating heavy machinery, then they could probably do something. BUT, how often is heavy farm machinery operated near a farmhouse? Not often, I'd imagine.