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  • Iraq moves towards self-rule.

    The BBC is reporting the new Iraqi national governing council is now in session. The council will have the resposibility for setting up a provisional government until a counstitution can be created and elections held. Do you folks think this council will help at all? Is it a step in the right direction or is it a false alley?
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    It's over half Shia. That doesn't seem right.
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    • #3
      Shia are the majority in Iraq.

      In a related report Iraq is getting a new Dinar without Saddam's face on it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3052642.stm
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      • #4
        It's definately a step in the right direction. Maybe they can get Iraq going again. God knows we don't seem to be able to.
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        • #5
          Good step, but when do they gain control of security in most areas? Does what little Iraqi police that exists answer to them, or the US command?
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          • #6
            What does it mean when the Council is effectively appointed by the Americans and the American-in-charge can overrule the Council? I notice also that the Council's first decision was to create a public holiday to mark the day the country was liberated. Talk about priorities.
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            • #7
              Actually, their first decision was to end all holidays celebrating Hussein.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Oerdin
                Shia are the majority in Iraq.
                I didn't know they were over 50% majority. Still I think it's a bad idea to give one group more power.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by finbar
                  What does it mean when the Council is effectively appointed by the Americans and the American-in-charge can overrule the Council? I notice also that the Council's first decision was to create a public holiday to mark the day the country was liberated. Talk about priorities.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by finbar
                    What does it mean when the Council is effectively appointed by the Americans and the American-in-charge can overrule the Council? I notice also that the Council's first decision was to create a public holiday to mark the day the country was liberated. Talk about priorities.
                    Prove it. To me this is the same old rhetoric I keep hearing from the same old commentators, just regurgitated.

                    Kiddo: They make 60% of the population. So it seems rather representative.
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                    • #11
                      Fez, read the article for once...

                      The new body, whose 25 members were chosen by the US-led coalition occupying Iraq
                      The US-led coalition will still have the final word - but officials say the council's proposals will be rejected only in exceptional circumstances.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kidicious
                        I didn't know they were over 50% majority. Still I think it's a bad idea to give one group more power.
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                        • #13
                          Depends on your definition...it's a bad idea to give them too much power if they're going to use it to oppress minority groups, because protection of minority interests is one of the cornerstones of liberal democracy.
                          "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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                          • #14
                            So I guess you won't have a problem when the majority will decide to confiscate all of the wealth of rich in the US.
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #15
                              Too early to tell. Give it three months.

                              What will really decide is whether all the factions in Iraq accept this or whether any of them, particularly the religious hardliners, think they can do better by boycotting it and trying to make the country too difficult for the US/UK to stay.
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