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Is democracy taking hold in China?
No, not in any meaningful way any way.
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Is democracy taking hold in China?
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Sava, you can't compare the two because of the control exercised by the respective governments after the events. People in the US were free to raise hell about Kent State and demand change from elected representatives. The Chinese people were subject to arrest or detainment and even summary execution if they voiced any support for Tiannemen Square protests.Originally posted by Sava
Good point Tass, but in America, dissent used to be treated much the same way... Kent State? I doubt China could use violence to crush pro-Democracy movements. Especially since more and more people support such reforms.
Within its own boarders China could give a $hit about what the rest of the world thinks. They will do what is necessary to maintain power and act insulted if the world questions their "internal" actions. Hong Kong has a temporary special status and may make things more difficult for them, but they will be patient. 4 years after the turnover and they are trying to pass anti-democratic reform. Okay, didn't work this time, but I'll guarantee you that little by little the freedom that Hong Kong enjoys will slowly fade away. The rest of China will be forcibly kept in line if a legitimate threat appears."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Sava, do you really hate America this much?For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Fez Sighting +1.
How was your permanent self-imposed vacation from Poly Fez?Comment
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I am on vacation in Hawaii...
And that means I am gonna be posting minimally at best. BTW, my plans changed significantly. I am not going to Italy til winter.
Anyways I see most of the usual nuts here have went from attacking Bush to attacking democracy. What arrogance.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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"I hate this place! I'm leaving!"Originally posted by Fez
Sava, do you really hate America this much?
"This place sux. I'm leaving."
You all hate me. I'm leaving."
"Everyone in the world hates me. I'm leaving."
But I see most of the usual nuts hereFezzie only makes 2 posts, and I can already trip him upWhat arrogance.
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You are a dumb @$$, tass.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Interesting. I'm the one pointing out YOUR fallacies, FezOriginally posted by Fez
You are a dumb @$$, tass.
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What fallacy you damned idiot?
The fact that your arrogant existence is a fallacy?
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Fez
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Oh here comes kiddo... the little "know-it-all" who calls himself a communist... communism itself is a fallacy.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Did you buy that helicopter in the end?Comment
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Shut up, commie trash.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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What does that mean in your sig about leadership in the US?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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