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The manufacturing of electronics and electronic equipment has been shrinking since 1997 in the US, according to the BEA . In 1997 it was 2% of GDP and in 2001 is was 1.4% of GDP. Productivity gains and market saturation are the cause. Ha!
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Market saturation is probably more of a cause. Once someone buys a TV, computer, DVD player, etc... they usually don't need another one. Once older pieces of equipment begin to fail, or newer ones come onto the market, then you will see the manufacturing increase. Also... how much of the proportional decrease is due to the GDP's rise and how much is due to manufacturing decreasing?To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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So you first make a claim and then go and check if the facts support you?DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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Colon, you know he could remember it, but not find the stats online at that moment.
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If there are productivity gains, and I think everyone agrees that there are, then it must follow that they must have contributed to the decrease in industry GDP since the productivity gains have also caused falling prices.Originally posted by Sava
Market saturation is probably more of a cause. Once someone buys a TV, computer, DVD player, etc... they usually don't need another one. Once older pieces of equipment begin to fail, or newer ones come onto the market, then you will see the manufacturing increase. Also... how much of the proportional decrease is due to the GDP's rise and how much is due to manufacturing decreasing?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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So I guess he can also remember the evidence backing up his other claim ("Productivity gains and market saturation are the cause."), only we need to wait for him to find the stats.Originally posted by Azazel
Colon, you know he could remember it, but not find the stats online at that moment.
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Do you have any other possible cause to put out?Originally posted by Colon
So I guess he can also remember the evidence backing up his other claim ("Productivity gains and market saturation are the cause."), only we need to wait for him to find the stats.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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it all depends on the market... your scenario would not be correct in all cases. It's a logical assumption, but not much more than that.If there are productivity gains, and I think everyone agrees that there are, then it must follow that they must have contributed to the decrease in industry GDP since the productivity gains have also caused falling prices.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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The elasticity of demand would have to be elastic for the entire demand curve. Saturation occurs at the lower portion of the demand curve where demand is inelastic for most products and certainly computers.Originally posted by Sava
your scenario would not be correct in all cases.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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I could give you a million if I don't have to prove it.Originally posted by Kidicious
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How about a plausable one?Originally posted by Colon
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So you first make a claim and then go and check if the facts support you?So I guess he can also remember the evidence backing up his other claim ("Productivity gains and market saturation are the cause."), only we need to wait for him to find the stats.
Yes, his assertion was that production gains reduce employment, not production gains and market
(over) saturation.
Hey Kid, those numbers don't reflect jobs in the computer industry which was what we were debating, remember? Second, those numbers are for the US, not the world, so they don't tell us much of anything about employment in the computer industry or electronics manufacturing. The whole picture has to be looked at since a wide variety of factors effect job totals in the US, like how many US manufacturing jobs have gone to places like Singapore, Indonesia and Mexico, etc., to avoid government meddling in the market here as opposed to those other places. We'd have to look at how tariffs effect the situation, then domestic taxes and regulations, and so on... You want evidence? Find out how many computers were sold worldwide in those years and we'll see if the market has become saturated.
Oh yeah, how many people were employed in the electronics industry when Benjamin Franklin discovered the fluid nature of electricity? How many were employed when the light bulb was invented and production gains allowed for it's mass production? We wouldn't have hardly any electronics industry without production gains, so the mere fact anyone is employed making computers at all is a net plus.
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