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  • #91
    Originally posted by LoneWolf
    Man, this is high debate.
    Clearly the Euros are the superior force for good in the world. Oh, and Canada, too .
    You ran out of arguments before you even opened your mouth.
    “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Gatekeeper
      Does the WTO ever rule against any other nation than the United States?
      yes.
      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        Ban UK beef. The samething the Canadians are whining about.
        he UK has had thousands of cases of BSE infected beef (tens of thousands, actually, IIRC)

        We've had one, and have slaughtered every herd that had the remotest connection (or could have had) with the infected cow. Not to mention the fact that beef products have been shipped regularly back and forth over our border on an industrial scale for ages. There's no more chance that a cow in Saskatchewan has BSE than does a cow in North Dakota...
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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        • #94
          Originally posted by DanS
          This is a good move. I didn't want to see the tariff in the first place, even though a short "time out" to restructure isn't an inappropriate policy.

          It's a really bad idea.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            Lonewolf, I think we should reduce tariffs ourselves, even if others don't. That way the consumer benefits and US companies are forced to be the most efficient in the world. This is the main reason that England became an economic powerhouse in the 1600s. They repealed tariffs on agricultural goods (the Corn Laws) and they skyrocketed.
            Rock on. Let the neo-mercantalists diddle themselves.

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            • #96
              KH: The facts of the outbreak is incidental to my point. The only relevent part is that they continued the ban long after the outbreak had been contained.
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              • #97
                The outbreak in the UK is contained? Not yet. The number of new cases being reported is on the decline, but it's not yet contained...
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                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
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                • #98
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                  • #99
                    Damn. Link's not working properly, but it states number of cases reported this year in the UK as 309.
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                    • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                      The outbreak in the UK is contained? Not yet.
                      You learn something new everyday. But I fail to see how that changes my point.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • The US is the most active, aggressive and successful litigant in the WTO and its predecessor the GATT. So its a bit rich to whine when a decision goes against you.

                        These tariffs weren't good for US industry anyway in my opinion. The US auto industry for example has been calling for their removal.

                        A tariff is just another word for tax. This tax was being paid by those American companies that use steel. That can't be good for US industry. Nor is it good for US consumers who pay for the tariffs in higher prices for built up steel products like cars and white goods and houses and the like. It also makes US exports of products with steel content more expensive and therefore less competitive in international markets. More bad news for US industry.

                        In summary it was a pretty bad way to "help" the US steel industry. It basically rewarded their inefficiency and gave US steel incentives not to make necessary improvements to efficiency to improve competitiveness against imports. You want to reward that kind of lazy corporate behaviour?
                        Last edited by Alexander's Horse; July 14, 2003, 23:57.
                        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                        • What, that the French acted like *******s in the UK BSE situation? Sort of. They had "other" concerns than scientific ones, to be sure. But they had more of a case than you guys do even now...
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • Originally posted by TCO


                            Rock on. Let the neo-mercantalists diddle themselves.
                            Neo-mercantilists my ass. Do you really want to start to discuss farm subsidies?

                            You and the Euros are complete ****wits when it comes to that...
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                              Neo-mercantilists my ass. Do you really want to start to discuss farm subsidies?

                              You and the Euros are complete ****wits when it comes to that...
                              Are you drinking?

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                              • Originally posted by TCO


                                Are you drinking?
                                Jealous?
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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