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Despite what Speer says, these programs have very limited effect. btw, I used to teach in an inner-city school.
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btw, i used to attend an inner-city school"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
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Re: What can be done about the gang problem in US?
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although like i said, these programs arent always there and kids return back to the corner eventually and some slip right through but i do credit them for the dramatic decline of gangs in philly."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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Yeah, I think police crack down is what really hurts the gangs.Originally posted by Oerdin
Back in the early 1990's though the police cracked down hard on these guys and they ended up with very long prision sentences.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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yeah let's throw all the young males into jails! so when they get out, they got police records and can't get jobs! that'll show them!Yeah, I think police crack down is what really hurts the gangs."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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That will also only spread the gang problem in prisons.. that's why they should be sent to the army with a chance of clean record if they serve well and it was only minor offense.. They'd have to finish their high school in the army, and if you'd do good.. you'd get that finance for college. If you mess up the chance, then you go to jail.In da butt.
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I feel that the whole mess is based on a delussional pride of belonging to a certain group. These people will also forgo success to be held with greater estemee amongst those peers who were unable to obtain the success they gave up. Call it pure pressure, call it not being like to be called an oreo or a sell-out. Yet, if that pride can be erased, and instead relay that pride in to self appreciation then gang violence would turn into helping hands.
It is very hard to give help to people who don't want it, or to people who would abuse it so that they may stay within a certain social status with their friends and family.
How do remove this hateful pride? Education? Yeah, they would only use that as an outlet for further abuse. Social reform does not begin with government funding, nor with worthless social programs (of which there are many, I am not saying they are all worthless). Social reform begins with the people looking for opportunities, not just by supplying it.
Many people who take such opportunities end right back where they started because of pride and familiar ties.
Remove the worthless programs, and make it harder for one to acheive success so that giving it all up - in the name of pride- would be a lot harder to do.
Counter-productive? I don't think so. People are a lot more likely to give up something that was given to them for free, the for something they had to work for.Comment
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They were sending them to bootcamp, and I think that was doing some good, but then people started complaining that it was violating their rights. Apparently some people think that just sitting around in jail was their right.Originally posted by Pekka
That will also only spread the gang problem in prisons.. that's why they should be sent to the army with a chance of clean record if they serve well and it was only minor offense.. They'd have to finish their high school in the army, and if you'd do good.. you'd get that finance for college. If you mess up the chance, then you go to jail.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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i used to favour militarizing inner city youth or at least having there be a paramilitary group for the young boys... but now i think the best bet is to bring more jobs into the city, have social programs, and release drug dealers, muggers, and other economic criminals if they go straight to high school, college, or trade schools (and their tuitions being paid for by the state which would save from keeping them locked up). the discipline of the military might be useful though."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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Do you have any idea how to get there?Originally posted by Albert Speer
i used to favour militarizing inner city youth or at least having there be a paramilitary group for the young boys... but now i think the best bet is to bring more jobs into the city, have social programs, and release drug dealers, muggers, and other economic criminals if they go straight to high school, college, or trade schools (and their tuitions being paid for by the state which would save from keeping them locked up). the discipline of the military might be useful though.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Pekka you are a brawler I say come on over you can beat all of the gangbangers up...We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Pekka would need guns...To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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how to get where, kid?"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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d2K can talk like a playaComment
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should we name you "Fuhrer"?Originally posted by Albert Speer
i used to favour militarizing inner city youth or at least having there be a paramilitary group for the young boys... but now i think the best bet is to bring more jobs into the city, have social programs, and release drug dealers, muggers, and other economic criminals if they go straight to high school, college, or trade schools (and their tuitions being paid for by the state which would save from keeping them locked up). the discipline of the military might be useful though.
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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