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No....what he's saying is that only the rich can afford them now....so a tarriff would make them unaffordable, period.
Of course, what he's not recognizing is:
1) If only the rich can afford them, then the total demand relative to the total size of the Iraqi economy makes the savings in money not spent on those goods irrelevant in terms of nation-building and
2) Given the current disarray of the nation, those tarrifs would be nigh on impossible to enforce, and the goods would still get into the country by way of smugglers, who would sell them on the black market.
The solution though, obviously, is to pour millions of dollars a month into stopping the flow of $100,000 dollars a month or so of illicit DVD players....good economic sense in that, you see....
-=Vel=-
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Originally posted by Velociryx
No....what he's saying is that only the rich can afford them now....so a tarriff would make them unaffordable, period.
Of course, what he's not recognizing is:
1) If only the rich can afford them, then the total demand relative to the total size of the Iraqi economy makes the savings in money not spent on those goods irrelevant in terms of nation-building and
Although it seems insignificant to you it's all we have to work with. We need to make every bit count. Every dollar we put into the economy should be used to rebuild Iraq, not just provide them with Chinese consumer goods.
Originally posted by Velociryx
2) Given the current disarray of the nation, those tarrifs would be nigh on impossible to enforce, and the goods would still get into the country by way of smugglers, who would sell them on the black market.
The solution though, obviously, is to pour millions of dollars a month into stopping the flow of $100,000 dollars a month or so of illicit DVD players....good economic sense in that, you see....
-=Vel=-
You are identifying a problem that just won't be a problem.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
You don't have the first clue about human nature then, do you? No, really....
You're right....the black market won't be a problem. Just like it isn't a problem in Russia now, right? And they're in worlds better shape than Iraq....
In short, you continue to amaze me...
-=Vel=-
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Originally posted by Velociryx
You don't have the first clue about human nature then, do you? No, really....
You're right....the black market won't be a problem. Just like it isn't a problem in Russia now, right? And they're in worlds better shape than Iraq....
In short, you continue to amaze me...
-=Vel=-
How can you have a problem like that when you have military rule? Seriously, I know Bush is incompetent, but you seem to think he's more incompetent than I do.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
You know better that the Iraquis what they need (Central Planning Syndrom); you cannot imagine that the Iraqis ordering these goods can have every productive justification to do so. For instance, DVD can be used in education, in research, in administration, in healthcare, etc ...
Statistical anomaly.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
In case you hadn't noticed, the military is stretched thin as it is...there's a broad consensus that we need MORE troops just to hold what we've got, and yet, somehow, magically, we have enough to set up checkpoints and oversee the whole tarriff operation you want to introduce? Where will you pull these troops from, exactly? What will you leave exposed in order to properly enforce the tarrifs and monitor all port activity to the Nth degree? (to say nothing of Iraq's broad, wide-open borders)
-=Vel=-
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Originally posted by DAVOUT
You know better that the Iraquis what they need (Central Planning Syndrom); you cannot imagine that the Iraqis ordering these goods can have every productive justification to do so. For instance, DVD can be used in education, in research, in administration, in healthcare, etc ...
Come on. How petty is this? They don't need DVD players.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
Originally posted by Velociryx
In case you hadn't noticed, the military is stretched thin as it is...there's a broad consensus that we need MORE troops just to hold what we've got, and yet, somehow, magically, we have enough to set up checkpoints and oversee the whole tarriff operation you want to introduce? Where will you pull these troops from, exactly? What will you leave exposed in order to properly enforce the tarrifs and monitor all port activity to the Nth degree? (to say nothing of Iraq's broad, wide-open borders)
-=Vel=-
You are just imagining a huge problem where there will be a very small insignificant problem. Tariffs exist all over the world. Smuggling goods duty free has never been a serious problem.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
Kid...bottom line is...who are you to tell them what they do or don't need? And unless you want to go house to house and check for stuff you don't think they should be buying, and threaten harsh punishments for acquiring those "forbidden goods" they're GOING to get them, whether you like it or not.
So what's the solution? Let it go or kill them in bulk? One of these solutions will let people focus on the business of rebuilding the coutnry. One of them will enrage the whole region. You pick.
-=Vel=-
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You are just imagining a huge problem where there will be a very small insignificant problem. Tariffs exist all over the world. Smuggling goods duty free has never been a serious problem.
Tell it to the Russians.
-=Vel=-
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Originally posted by Velociryx
Kid...bottom line is...who are you to tell them what they do or don't need? And unless you want to go house to house and check for stuff you don't think they should be buying, and threaten harsh punishments for acquiring those "forbidden goods" they're GOING to get them, whether you like it or not.
I would very much like to have a Cuban cigar right now. Unfortunately, the US govt has successfully denied me that option.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
I would very much like to have a Cuban cigar right now. Unfortunately, the US govt has successfully denied me that option
Oh. My. God.
I can't even believe you posted that as a viable argument!
Yes...the USA is a strong, stable government. We have the infrastructure in place here to support and enforce tarrifs.
But in your mind, I suppose, it's a simple matter, even when much of the country still can't keep the lights on reliably.
Amazing....
-=Vel=-
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You are just imagining a huge problem where there will be a very small insignificant problem. Tariffs exist all over the world. Smuggling goods duty free has never been a serious problem.
Ummm..... There is this little thing known as a war on .....what was it again.... Ohh Yeah, Drugs!!!!
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