There Is No Gun Crime In The United States

[Sikander]

Originally posted by MikeH
Yeah but don't forget that the greatest subset of our murders are drug related as well.

Point taken, and to be fair to African Americans there is a lot of overlap between their rate of homocide and the killings related to drugs as well.

[Agathon]

Sava, do something about that avatar. Every time I see it I can't stop laughing. It's starting to hurt.

[:) Smiley]

Fact is guns are just a tool used to kill people. Long before there were guns anywhere in the world, there's always been lots of killing. Today in mainland China guns are just about impossible to get, so people use industrial explosives on their enemies' housing. For all I know, guns could even be an improvement over other methods, as it's kind of hard to miss when you're using a knife or dynamite.

[DanS]

What about this one attracted international attention?

Because any news in the US lights up the news wires.

[Kramerman]

Same thing goes with ammunition. each bullet should have a unique number. Before you start shooting you sign for those numbers. When afterwards a bullet is used illegally, which has your number on it you'll have a hell of a lot explaining to do...

im sure those serial numbers could be scratched off and stuff... but the system would definately make it harder to kill people with guns. I wouldnt like it, but i wouldnt mind sacrificing my freedom to take my gun to my ranch if to save a few lives.

[Japher]

I think people should revert back to using bows and arrows, swords, axes, and pikes... That would be much more fun! Highlander style!

[Sinapus]

Originally posted by Kramerman
(Re: Some fool's "brilliant" idea for serial numbers... on bullets.)

im sure those serial numbers could be scratched off and stuff... but the system would definately make it harder to kill people with guns. I wouldnt like it, but i wouldnt mind sacrificing my freedom to take my gun to my ranch if to save a few lives.

Not to mention all the ammunition already in existence.

We're talking billions of rounds, here. Please think next time you have a brilliant idea of this magnitude. Sheesh.

[Vandal-1]

This country was built on guns and butter sorry; weapons belong in the hands of the people.They are our abilty to defend our basic rights against unreasonable forces criminal or governmental which would compromise them.People have and will die by the gun,or the bludgeon or the rope,what will we have next rope controle...mind controle.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Sava
Yes, I own 4.

Why? Are you too lazy to reload?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by rah
Sorry, I'll take my chances. It's worth a higher chance of dying by gun fire to not have to live in the UK.

I was going to make the point that being shot dead in the UK was a blessing...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by MikeH


I don't have time to look for them now, got to go out but they are MUCH lower in the UK. I'll find them tomorrow if I remember (Ought to save them somewhere this comes up so often.) As people always point out here though it's normally the people in the poorer areas getting shot so most of the Apolyton posters who tend to live in nice areas aren't so bothered about it.

It's a lot easier to kill someone with a gun than, say, a knife, and a lot less messy.

IIRC homicide rate in the US is down to around 6.1 per 100 000 per annum (hit a high of >10 in early 1990s)

Homicide rate in Canada is ~1.7 per 100 000 per annum. In the UK (and most other Euro countries) it's just a bit lower. 1.5 or so?

Handgun homicides are overrepresented in the US as compared to Canada or Euro countries. In the US they account for 40-50% IIRC. In Canada it's more like 15% and in the UK it's more like 5% (this last figure is dredged up from a discussion of 2 years ago, so it may be inaccurate)...