Tommie Franks is history.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by FrustratedPoet


Shame, he would have made a great OT mod.

[Sava]

Sava, nice being a whiner, but Franks was cleared.

oh please.. are you the president of The Tommy Franks Ass-licking club?

[MichaeltheGreat]

No, Ass-licking seems to be your specialty. And anyone you don't like is guilty by allegation, regardless of these inconvenient little details like "facts."

And the IG office is staffed with little pencil-necked, pencil-dicked Cheneys who make their careers out of stuffing and mounting whoever they investigate. If you think they wouldn't want an O-10 theater commander for a trophy, you're more clueless than usual.

What you had was some backbiting and *****-and-moan allegations by ex-low level staff pukes who probably didn't like their efficiency reviews.

[Dis]

can he be tried for war crimes now?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Dissident
can he be tried for war crimes now?

Only if the Belgians come and get him.

[Sava]

And anyone you don't like is guilty by allegation, regardless of these inconvenient little details like "facts."

bah, I don't have anything against Franks. I just read a Newsweek article about government waste that cited many "facts" about Franks and how he's quite fond of spending taxpayer money on extravagance. The story probably didn't surface in the mainstream media because he has friends in high places. Other than that, I'm just trolling. A lot of conservatives seem to like this guy so much, so it's only natural I attack him.

[JohnT]

Sava, only you would think that Newsweek isn't "mainstream".

[Sava]

Sava, only you would think that Newsweek isn't "mainstream".

bah, I meant to say "mainstream TV media..." my bad...

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Sava
I just read a Newsweek article about government waste that cited many "facts" about Franks and how he's quite fond of spending taxpayer money on extravagance.

And the "facts" turned out to be essentially a bunch of baseless *****ing by malcontents who used the Army's IG complaint system.

The story probably didn't surface in the mainstream media because he has friends in high places. Other than that, I'm just trolling. A lot of conservatives seem to like this guy so much, so it's only natural I attack him.

Where the hell have you been? It was in the news months ago that the Inspector General's office had started an inquiry on multiple allegations of personal and financial misconduct.

They investigated and cleared him, and Franks has very few friends on the political side of the Army, or in political circles in general.

[Sava]

do you have any sources or anything MtG? if my info is bad I'd like to find out some more accurate information...

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Oerdin
BBC is reporting it today.

Also the his replacement has the nick name of "The Mad Arab" which he earned at west point 30 years ago and has stuck ever since.

Its better than "Cheating Arab" or "Smelly Arab" I guess.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Sava
do you have any sources or anything MtG? if my info is bad I'd like to find out some more accurate information...

Here's one off the top of my head - and the bit about a general's wife being present at a briefing is a friggin' joke. Spouses know all sorts of stuff.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/03/05/pentagon.franks/

[Sava]

"Tom Franks is doing a superb job for this country, and we are lucky to have him [in his command]," Rumsfeld told reporters in February.

"He has my complete confidence and the complete confidence of the president of the United States."

Rummy loves him... he must be really evil!

[MichaeltheGreat]

Naah, he just does what he's told.

Rummy would have had a lot tougher time with Powell, Vuono and Schwarzkopf than he did with Myers, Shinseki and Franks.

[TCO]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
57 so he's at 35 years, which is normal mandatory retirement for O-7's up, unless there's a waiver from Congress, unless that rule has been changed fairly recently.

Schwarzkopf also turned down ACS - it's generally a **** job after a theater command, all Chairborne Rangering and babysitting Congress.

Sava, nice being a whiner, but Franks was cleared.

Abizaid is a fairly no-**** soldiering type, as much as we have those any more.

What the vetspy/aribaser-on-hills types here don't realize is what a huge fricking deal being a CINC is. It is way more power and operations and diplomacy and stuff than being a service cheif. (And the service cheif is not in the chain of command.) I'd rather be the DCINC at EUCOM (for some NATO reasons it's almost like being a full CINC) than the CJCS. Powell liked CJCS, but he is more of a policy guy.