US judge: hamas to pay 116 Million dollars to kids of a couple murdered in Israel

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Yet another example of US Unilateralism. So US courts can have extraterritorial powers, but courts in other counties may not.

Astonishing how people can pretend to "forget" this with a straight face.

BTW - Never noticed you were a fellow traveller, UR. Bad me.

[DanS]

Agathon: Tell me with a straight face that Hamas isn't a terrorist organization.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by DanS
No, the US courts don't have extraterritorial powers, since the awards can only be levied against assets in the US.

Actually, that makes a lot more sense. Does this mean I can sue Halliburton in Iraq?

[Agathon]

And I've thought of something. If I move to the US and sue Halliburton this means I can be awarded their assets in the US like, say, the Republican and Democratic Parties.

[DanS]

Does this mean I can sue Halliburton in Iraq?

Sure. Go ahead.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by DanS
Agathon: Tell me with a straight face that Hamas isn't a terrorist organization.

I didn't say it wasn't. But the political wing of Hamas is a terrorist organisation in the same way that Sinn Fein was. Doesn't change my point.

Anyway, the CIA is a terrorist organisation, as is the Israeli government.

[DanS]

There is no political wing of Hamas. Nobody's fault other than Hamas' that they didn't create two parallel organizations, such as did Sinn Fein/IRA and as did Fatah/Al Aqsa Martyr's Brigade.

[Estilpón]

"The notion that on the one hand, Hamas is peaceful, and on the other hand, is trying to blow up the peace process is just illogical and, we´re saying, will not work," Rice said.

sure

but it's exactly teh same one that some members of the Israeli government...

...we must remember Sharon in electoral campaign and the ultraorthodox parties...all the days

[PLATO]

Sinn Fein is not a good analogy to Hamas. The British are dealing with them only because there is not an alternative to deal with and also only after they agreed to disarm. Neithier of these applies to Hamas.

And also...just when I was about to get over my problem with France...

[Shi Huangdi]

There is a diffrence between the US law and the ICC, in that the US laws covers US citizens. It's still stupid though.

As regarding Hamas, it is different from Sinn Fein in that Hamas is made up of Religious fanatics who believe it is the will of Allah that they hold all of the land. Sinn Fein you can negotiate with them, but if someone insists that God whats them to hold a particular land its hard to convicne them otherwise.

[Colonâ„¢]

Originally posted by DanS
Does this mean I can sue Halliburton in Iraq?

Sure. Go ahead.

Can I sue Bush sr in Belgium?

[Estilpón]

hmmm...

As regarding "some israeli political party", it is different from Sinn Fein in that "some israeli political party" is made up of Religious fanatics who believe it is the will of 'Jehova' that they hold all of the land. Sinn Fein you can negotiate with them, but if someone insists that God whats them to hold a particular land its hard to convicne them otherwise.


interesting... then Hamas has similar characteristics with some Israeli political parties?

[DanS]

Can I sue Bush sr in Belgium?

Do you mean in a civil suit, like this one was? If so, then sure. Why not?

[Sava]

Talk about stupid and frivilous lawsuits...

I'm going to sue some peasant in the Ukraine for ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!

[GePap]

Hamas is an organization with a militant wing, much like Hezbollah, which besides a militant wing has elected members in the Lebanese parliment. So there is no seperation as with the IRA and Sinn Fein, but it is wrong to say Hamas is not also a political org, or an org that runs social porgrams in Gaza (which helps them build their political base)